Re: Historical Flight Plans Forum?` « Result #3 Today at 3:49pm »
I suspect that it might be very much a regional thing. As late as 1956 the Vancouver Radio Range was being used to designate Airway Green 1 but it is unlikely that they were still using the aural tones for navigation on a regular basis. When TCA Flight 810 slammed into Mount Slesse on December 9th of that year they were supposed to be homing on the Vancouver Range but were in fact 12-nm south and well into the south-east "N" quadrant.
A book about the accident, "Disaster on Mount Slesse" implies that navigation using a bearing from the Hope NDB to the Vancouver Range was the system in use but is frustratingly shy on details. Apperantly the TCA North Stars could still track the Ranges aurally and visually by the mid-fifties so if the RR4 is accurate, using that data should be reasonable during this period depending on the area being flown across.
I use them for flight planning across North America throughout the CalClassic era but do not know how accurate the flight plans are. However, am pretty good at keeping to the published scheduled timings but that might be mere coincidence.
Re: Historical Flight Plans Forum?` « Result #4 Today at 3:22pm »
Hi,
Another way to retrace earlier flights is to use FSAviators advice, which, if I begin to understand it, is to to programme in a 'direct to' flight between the 2 airports of your choice, no matter how far apart and every 1/2 hour or so, check with your co-pilot if he has contacted a ground station along your path to obtain a bearing ( and this is simulated by checking the GPS and adjusting your course by 5 degrees left or right to come back towards the pink line to follow your route roughly). When you get within range of your destination you can follow the airport's beams etc!
As he writes, there were radio stations everywhere and you might be 100s of miles from them but could still get a bearing, unlike VORs and NDBs which might only have a range of 30 miles or so.
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Re: Historical Flight Plans Forum?` « Result #6 Today at 2:53pm »
For the early to mid fifties timeframe, I agree that the excellent Radio Range aural ranges don't quite fit. But before the Radio Range program came out, DC3 Airways had compiled a similar structure using the airways based on VORs. They call it the "1940 Civil Airways" guide and it's available at
IMHO, the important thing about FS flying in the early '50s is to use navigation methods that fit that timeframe. So, for me, that means using NDBs or VARs only. That's VARs not VORs. If you haven't run into that particular navigational critter before, the VAR system used VHF transmitters (like VORs) but it provided, typically, only four radials. So, basically, it was very much like the Radio Range system but it provided visual guidance instead of aural guidance and it used higher frequencies which were not so affected by weather and static.
Fortunately, it is very simple to use the default FS VOR system as a VAR system. Just follow your flight plan from VOR to VOR but each time you pass over a VOR, you select ONLY the outbound radial as per your flight plan. About halfway to the next VOR, select ONLY the correct inbound radial. In between, it's no fair twirling the dial to see what radial from the Wotzit VOR you're on. Use only the specified radials. If you're off course or lost, run through an orientation procedure to capture the correct radial and then continue your flight as planned. How do you know which radials to use? It's all in the DC-3 Airwys Civil Airways download I mentioned above. It contains everything you need. It may not be absolutely spot-on in creating the exact airway network at, say, July 1953, but it is a very realistic representation and as good as you're likely to get using the default FS software.
Btw, this technique was outlined by FSAviator years ago. I used in my Boeing 247 release as a substitute for Aural Ranges... just a few weeks before Radio Range arrived. How was that for botched timing on my part!
Re: Bristol Superfreighter WIP ****Released**** « Result #7 Today at 2:47pm »
HI Hans
Yep I've seen those...great eh!!
Are you in FS.X?? if you are then the shared may not be working properly...I'm in FS9 and someone else assembled the FS.X pacjage but another person has had a problem.
The sound and panel is shared so it's not in the CFE either but copying it you will have copied the file to share it so it would, in theory, work.
If you're FS.9 then there should have been no problem.
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Re: Bristol Superfreighter WIP ****Released**** « Result #8 Today at 2:16pm »
Hello Gary, I just took her for a flight and she behaves very nice. Same as with Maarten, I have seen them many times on Rotterdam/Zestienhoven.One of my first airplanes pictures I took was actually a Superfreighter.
Perhaps already known, but you can find some nice demo movies ( Freighters) on the following links :
Re: Bristol Superfreighter WIP ****Released**** « Result #11 Today at 1:02pm »
Ah yes...that was the one that before going to Canada it was with Instone as G-BISU.
I would think most of the Superfreighters you saw were the Southend fleet....ex Channel Air Bridge where as with me it was The Silver City originals. They only really mixed them in the BAF days and by then there were only about 2 ex SCA and four ex CAB plus two three with CAT
Re: Bristol Superfreighter WIP ****Released**** « Result #12 Today at 12:57pm »
Garry, actually most of the Bristol170s I saw were Superfreighters. I must have seen the first ones in 1956 when I was 4 years old. They used to fly very low over the houses of the extreme northern part of Rotterdam.
I was used to the sounds of the Convair, DC-3s, -4s and 6s, and (Super) Connies because they flew rather low in front of our house in Amsterdam on finals to Schiphol rwy 21 (by then).
Compared to those types the Bristols (and also the Vikings) had a very loud, rough sound. That was all right at daytime, but when these bu****s flew over when I was in my bed at my auntie's and uncle's, they would scare the hell out of the wee boy I was.
The very last Bristol 170 I ever saw was the ex-Canadian Mk.31 at the classic Fly In at Lydd, just a week or so before it crashed.
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Re: Creeping Connie « Result #13 Today at 11:42am »
Turbo Props like the KA usually suffer from the not very realistic engine and prop simulation in FS for that type of engine. I think their creep is different from the one noticed by some on the Connie in that it actually is the driving forward due to thrust. Wheels turning and so on.
The Connie floats it seems since there is no reaction on the wheels and no "squeaky brake sound". I think it is actually a "slew" in this case.
Re: Bristol Superfreighter WIP ****Released**** « Result #21 Today at 10:40am »
Hello Garry!
Thank you so much! I hadn't expected the Biffo at all yet, so this is a huge and very welcome surprise.
Right now I am downloading the Super Freighter and I am eagerly looking forward to flying her.
I have many memories to the real ones as my auntie and uncle lived under the flight path to Rotterdam Airport (then Zestienhoven) where Freighters and Carvairs were a very common sight for many years.
Many thanks again.
Merry Christmas and a very Happy, Healthy New Year!
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Re: Historical Flight Plans Forum?` « Result #25 Today at 10:00am »
Eric,
Good idea and long overdue as a project.
The Radio Range programme is there of course but that's a long time back. Surprisingly there's very little on the web with info on routes late 50's/ early 60's. From memory I recall that around that time there were three sets of Jeppeson Charts, Low, Intermediate (both Victors) and High Altitude (J's).
Flight Global's archive is a great source of info outside the US. Many accounts of delivery fights etc all over the world with quite a bit of route detail. I've managed to collect together enough information to give me the beacons, airways, stacks etc for at least the UK 50's /60's and with the help of FSNav that's how I fly my Retro's. Obsolete beacons and ranges are a challenge but with the help of old OS maps and Google Earth I've positioned quite a few.
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Christmas « Result #27 Today at 9:46am »
It is time to wish all of the forum members a very Merry Christmas, and also to thank everyone for being entertaining, informative, and most of all very helpful. I've learned a lot about improving my flight sim, my scenery, and and also how many fine people out there will help you just because they can. Special thanks to the moderators, I dare say we have the best forum on the internet.
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Re: Mexico City « Result #34 Today at 7:50am »
Thanks Tom. We have a move coming up next month, after wich I may take a look at donig this project. Like you where saying, there does not seam to be anything in the line of photos.
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Re: Mexico City « Result #37 Today at 7:40am »
Hi,
No, but it is on our list (but way down the list). One problem is that we have never found any pictures of the airport, other than the iconic tower area. Those would have to be found before we could even start the project (and there are many projects above it on the list).
We encourage other people to do it - I would be happy to create the tower building in GMAX if someone else would do all the rest.
The Night Before Christmas « Result #39 Today at 5:20am »
An oldie but timely with slight modification. ------------------------------------------------------
"Aviation Night Before Christmas"
Twas the night before Christmas, and out on the ramp, Not an airplane was stirring, not even a Champ. The aircraft were fastened to tiedowns with care, In hopes that come morning, they all would be there.
The fuel trucks were nestled, all snug in their spots, With gusts from two-forty at 39 knots. I slumped at the fuel desk, now finally caught up, And settled down comfortably, resting my butt.
When the radio lit up with noise and with chatter, I turned up the scanner to see what was the matter. A voice clearly heard over static and snow, Called for clearance to land at the airport below.
He barked his transmission so lively and quick, I'd have sworn that the call sign he used was "St. Nick". I ran to the panel to turn up the lights, The better to welcome this magical flight.
He called his position, no room for denial, "St. Nicholas One, turnin' left onto final." And what to my wondering eyes should appear, But a Rutan-built sleigh, with eight Rotax Reindeer!
With vectors to final, down the glideslope he came, As he passed all fixes, he called them by name: "Now Ringo! Now Tolga! Now Trini and Bacun! On Comet! On Cupid!" What pills was he takin'?
While controllers were sittin', and scratchin' their head, They phoned to my office, and I heard it with dread, The message they left was both urgent and dour: "When Santa pulls in, have him please call the tower."
He landed like silk, with the sled runners sparking, Then I heard "Left at Charlie," and "Taxi to parking." He slowed to a taxi, turned off of three-oh And stopped on the ramp with a "Ho, ho-ho-ho..."
He stepped out of the sleigh, but before he could talk, I ran out to meet him with my best set of chocks. His red helmet and goggles were covered with frost And his beard was all blackened from Reindeer exhaust.
His breath smelled like peppermint, gone slightly stale, And he puffed on a pipe, but he didn't inhale. His cheeks were all rosy and jiggled like jelly, His boots were as black as a cropduster's belly.
He was chubby and plump, in his suit of bright red, And he asked me to "fill it, with hundred low-lead." He came dashing in from the snow-covered pump, I knew he was anxious for drainin' the sump.
I spoke not a word, but went straight to my work, And I filled up the sleigh, but I spilled like a jerk. He came out of the restroom, and sighed in relief, Then he picked up a phone for a Flight Service brief.
And I thought as he silently scribed in his log, These reindeer could land in an eighth-mile fog. He completed his pre-flight, from the front to the rear, Then he put on his headset, and I heard him yell, "Clear!"
And laying a finger on his push-to-talk, He called up the tower for clearance and squawk. "Take taxiway Charlie, the southbound direction, Turn right three-two-zero at pilot's discretion"
He sped down the runway, the best of the best, "Your traffic's a Lockheed, inbound from the west." Then I heard him proclaim, as he climbed thru the night, "Merry Christmas to all! I have the Connie in sight."
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Re: L049 Advice Please. « Result #40 Today at 3:59am »
Thanks for the further replies. First of all an apology I stated thanks to both, I meant all. I used the new L749 yesterday so quite pleased with my experimentation without causing fuel starvation.
Thanks for the tip about the 049 bt FDZigns. Thanks for the answer on the cockpit change.
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Re: Creeping Connie « Result #42 Today at 12:39am »
I've noticed it flying online with various aircraft. The group I fly with tends to spend a good bit of time on the tarmac with the engines running at idle while waiting for everyone to show up. I'm always having to "scoot back" into the line up.
Historical Flight Plans Forum?` « Result #43 Yesterday at 8:25pm »
Its funny how and when things strike you.
I spent the day shopping for Christmas etc, and was pretty much exhausted from the effort. Spent the 9PM hour rocking my 22 month old grandson to sleep. While doing so, I was looking forward and mentally thinking about, a flight from Miami to Atlanta using Manfred and co's, L749 in Eastern Airlines livery.
I've flown this flight personally MANY times as a passenger as well as a FS9 jet pilot using many different modern jets. Then it got me thinking...in 1954, what route would have been used to fly this same flight with the same airplane? Can that be reproduced? I know timetables exist, but what about actual flight plans?
I think a forum on calclassics that covers this could be popular? I mean, I'd love to take a DC-6B or a MAAM DC-3 on a flight from London Heathrow to Dakar for instance. Staging that would be great.
Anyway, just an idea. But given the historical knowledge and experience of this community, could be great. Especially if Jesse and the military folks can suggest routes for mil birds that are accurate.
Re: DC-4 repaint « Result #44 Yesterday at 7:36pm »
I checked this repaint for transparency at night before releasing and it shows completely solid on my computer. The texture folder already contains black night textures (such as dc4_leftaft_L) so I'm still wondering what to do. At best, fly in day only- unless I can figure out a fix. This has got to be something to do with changing the alpha.
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Re: DC-4 repaint « Result #46 Yesterday at 3:50pm »
Hi,
To eliminate transparency of any model at dusk/dawn:
1. Create a small (any size but it has to be square) black 256 color BMP file. 2. Name it the same name as the texture name that is going transparent, but add _L to the name. 3. Add it to the plane's texture folder along with the other textures.
For example, if the wing is going transparent and the name of the wing texture is wingR.bmp, then the little black texture should be wingR_L.bmp.
Repainters, even if you don't want to do a night texture, at least include small black textures with the _L addition to the name.
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Re: L049 Advice Please. « Result #48 Yesterday at 3:35pm »
By the way, if you're using the FSDZigns L-049, trafficking with the fuel and crossfeed levers is pretty much wasted time, as the plane does not use them actively like the planes of Manfred Jahn's, but simply uses the old FS system of draining the tanks in a random way (or maybe a precise way, but known only to the coder of the sim, and hence random to us).
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Re: Creeping Connie « Result #49 Yesterday at 3:03pm »
Hi!
Manfred Many aircraft do indeed suffer from "creeping" while on idle engines. That is a fault within MS model and very little can be done apart from what Johan has posted. It is normally exaggerated with a poorly calibrated throttle axis as you mentioned. I know many payware aircraft that display this same behaviour.
But, I haven't seen it! Anyway the only time I am with the parking brake on and engines running for more than a few seconds is at the holding point for a rwy before TO while waiting for an incoming aircraft to land!
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Re: L049 Advice Please. « Result #50 Yesterday at 2:53pm »
Hi Simon!
First, what aircraft are you actually talking about: 1- FSDZigns L-049A OR 2-Manfred Jahn's L-749?
For the first no cockpit changes are planned as the original modeller, John Howard White passed away shortly after release. For the second, you have to ask Manfred directly but I hope there won't be any as it is perfect as it is!
Looks nice, i did not notice any mistake on that quantas picture?
There's nothing wrong with the plane itself, just with my choice of configuration: I should have taken the 'tiptank' Connie of flight 552 for flight 736, and vice versa. Or at least I should have flown the 'tankless' Connie as such - I accidentally configured her with her full tiptanks... <.<
Anyway, I decided for a short hop inbetween, from Rovaniemi (Finland) to Helsinki (also Finland), when I was asked to hold back at the runway. Seems some big intercontinental flight was about to take off...
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Re: L049 Advice Please. « Result #53 Yesterday at 12:54pm »
Just flown the L749 KMIA to KEWR. Flew with full tanks soI could experiment with the fuewl system. Followed your advixce on descent and did not cut out. Thanks to you both for the advice. 1 question is the 049 codckpit going to be changed or ist going to stay as it is.
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Trying to Find John Stinstrom « Result #54 Yesterday at 12:15pm »
Anyone,
I tried dropping a line to the last e-mail I can find, but it came back "unable to deliver." Does anyone know where to find John Stinstrom? I'd like to ask permission to use his 1950s vehicles in my sceneries. Please respond via private message.
Re: DC-4 repaint « Result #60 Yesterday at 10:44am »
Gary....about to take off from KDCA but maintenance crew delaying the flight....pilot screaming on the runaway.....bottom half of the fuselage at dusk is completely transparent whether reflections are on or off.....don't know if it is a limitation of my laptop videocard. Cheers
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Re: Sabena L749 « Result #61 Yesterday at 9:37am »
Hi Johan,
Unfortunately, Sabena never operated the L-749s, though as John said they did use the L-1049Hs - for about 6 months.
During the 1958 World Exposition, they leased 3 Super Connies from Seaboard and Western. The aircraft were the following: - N1007C - arrived at Brussels 16/05/58 - N1008C - arrived at Brussels 17/05/58 - N1006C - arrived at Brussels 18/05/58
The Super Connies were used on only 6 routes from May 16th on. They were the following:
- SN541: Brussels - Manchester - New York Flown on Tuesdays and Sundays. Departs Brussels 22:00, arrives Manchester 23:40, departs Manchester 00:25, arrives New York 10:35 - SN548: New York - Shannon - Brussels Flown on Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. Departs New York 16:00, arrives Shannon 07:30, departs Shannon 08:15, arrives Brussels 10:30 - SN550: New York - Manchester - Brussels Flown on Mondays and Wednesdays. Departs New York 16:00, arrives Manchester 08:15, departs Manchester 09:00, arrives Brussels 10:30 - SN551: Brussels - Shannon - New York Flown on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays. Departs Brussels 22:00, arrives Shannon 00:30, departs Shannon 01:15, arrives New York 09:20 - SN615: Brussels - Lourdes Flown on Mondays, Saturdays and Sundays. Departs Brussels 11:35, arrives Lourdes 14:05 - SN616: Lourdes - Brussels Flown on Mondays, Saturdays and Sundays. Departs Lourdes 15:10, arrives Brussels 17:40
All Sabena Super Constellation flights were discontinued on October 1st, 1958, and during October the Constellations were returned to Seaboard and Western. N1008C was subsequently leased to Aer Lingus, but eventually all 3 found their way to Capitol. N1006C and N1008C seem to have met their end at Sebring during the 1970s, while N1008C was scrapped at Opa Locka in 1988.
It seems that occasionally but especially after loading a saved flight the Connie creeps at 1 kias even though the throts are all the way back. It's hardly noticeable, you have to check the red Shift-Z line on top of your screen, but serious enough if you happen to be parked close to an airport building.
Hmmm. Creepy!
I have just made some tests and if I load up the 749 from scratch, cold, it shows 0.3 KIAS. This doesn't change after the engines are running, nor does it seem to change if I load a saved flight.
However, it seems to afflict other aircraft - I have been getting readings between 0.2 and 1.0 KIAS with different aircraft and at different locations . So I don't think it is a problem specific to your Connies. Perhaps it is the movement of the earth? :o)
I wouldn't worry about it - I have certainly not noticed before and I shall not let it bother me now.
Re: DC-4 repaint « Result #66 Yesterday at 8:35am »
Beautiful repaint Gary.....littlle I know I thought you wouldn't be able to make the triple line along the windows like the FS2000 repaint of Tom's model in Flightsim. Cheers
Creeping Connie « Result #72 Yesterday at 6:26am »
Hi,
We have come across a small but annoying problem that seems to affect all our Connies.
It seems that occasionally but especially after loading a saved flight the Connie creeps at 1 kias even though the throts are all the way back. It's hardly noticeable, you have to check the red Shift-Z line on top of your screen, but serious enough if you happen to be parked close to an airport building.
Here are some facts and oddities you can observe in this situation:
1) If you force throttle to Cut using key command F1 sometimes it does the trick, ie she does stop, and sometimes it doesn't. This may be connected with your current joystick throttle calibration.
2) If you slam on the brakes, or engage parking brake, NOTHING happens, she creeps on regardless at a steady 1 KIAS.
3) If you OPEN the throttles way beyond your idle setting, say to 15% or so, she creeeps on regardless at a steady 1 KIAS.
Can the Connie pilots here confirm this? More importantly, do you know what to do to get her to behave herself?
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Re: Lufthansa CV-440 already done? « Result #73 Yesterday at 6:14am »
Thanks, Gary!
So it's just the alpha giving such sleek appearance. You know, some users take a tweaked envmap.bmp (FS main texture folder) file to create some higher all-around gloss...
Re: Lufthansa CV-440 already done? « Result #74 Yesterday at 5:55am »
In the DXT program, I make an alpha template, invert the alpha, and then adjust the reflection to fit the plane. Some airlines never seemed to do much more than wash but not buff the skin.
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