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Post by aharon on Aug 1, 2023 10:46:11 GMT -5
Shalom and greetings all my pals,
Buffalo Airways' new 733F is starting its delivery tomorrow as seen on explanations in the video link describing the route with refuel stop overs:
Here is video action of the new plane
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Post by aharon on Aug 1, 2023 11:01:59 GMT -5
And since C-46 Commandos by Buffalo Airways fly under 10,000 ft meaning it will not show up in flightaware or 24hrflightradar, how do I find out the flights of Buffalo C-46 Commandos on internet without flightaware or 24hrflightradar so that I can find out what daily routes C-46 serve that 733 will be used on.
Thanks,
Aharon
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Aug 1, 2023 11:10:21 GMT -5
End of an era...
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Post by aharon on Aug 1, 2023 11:37:15 GMT -5
Well it is beyond Buffalo Joe's choice because Canada stops production of specific fuel called 100LL AvGas that is used by DC-3s, DC-4s, and C-46s. And when the supply of 100LL AvGas fuel runs out, it means Buffalo cannot use the planes mentioned above hence purchase of 733F and purchase of MORE Lockheed L-188 Electras for Buffalo. Electras run on Jet-A fuel.
The other factor is dwindling supply of spare parts for the DC-3s, DC-4s, and C-46s.
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by mrcapitalism on Aug 2, 2023 20:52:25 GMT -5
because Canada stops production of specific fuel called 100LL AvGas that is used by DC-3s, DC-4s, and C-46s. I'm sorry, but without some credit to this claim, I cannot accept it as accurate. They even give the reason in one of the videos you posted. They need more capacity than the C-46 on it's given route structure. This is no threat to 100LL in Canada, or anywhere else (please, prove me wrong). If you want to know what routes the C-46 flew, perhaps it will be possible to follow the routing of this 737 when Buffalo begins operation.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Aug 2, 2023 22:20:56 GMT -5
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Post by mrcapitalism on Aug 2, 2023 22:37:16 GMT -5
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Aug 3, 2023 8:58:13 GMT -5
I haven’t seen whether the old radials will be able to run on it. And no one mentions the R3350s of the Connies.
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Post by mrcapitalism on Aug 3, 2023 10:46:16 GMT -5
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Post by aharon on Aug 3, 2023 11:12:43 GMT -5
Mrcapitalism, I am just stating aviation experts.
You have to remember that the current national government of Canada under leadership of Trudeau is green energy fanatic. That government is doing everything to reduce dependence on specific fuel called 100LL AvGas that is used by DC-3s, DC-4s, and C-46s making it difficult for any airline particularly Buffalo Airways to get that kind of fuel. That is why Buffalo Airways is using more L188 Electra flights and buying more Electras as well as 737-300F. Everts airline based in Alaska is facing same situation where Biden administration is very very "anti-specific fuel called 100LL AvGas" making it difficult for Everts to get fuel for same kind of planes which is MAJOR REASON why Everts bought a new fleet of few jet BAE-146 cargo planes to handle short runways used by old prop planes as well as more jet MD-8X cargo planes. Everts even brought its old DC-9F out of storage and put it back into service. Both Canadian and American governments hate specific fuel called 100LL AvGas that is bad for global warming problems. Everts Air is seeing same writing on the wall that Buffalo Airways is seeing meaning both airlines are making very wise move to jet planes and modern turboprop planes that can use Jet-A fuel. Regards, Aharon
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Post by Erik on Aug 3, 2023 14:07:35 GMT -5
Hmm, be aware that everyone quoted in the media is an expert nowadays... More to the point: what is the link between 100LL specifically (not carbon fuels in general) and global warming?
The only environmental aspect I am aware of in this respect is that the LL in 100LL stand for low lead, because it contains at most half the tetraethyl lead that is in the older type of Avgas. The world is moving towards unleaded fuel of course, for good reasons by the way, and hence the desire to replace 100LL by an unleaded fuel, called (G)100UL by the first industries to produce it. Again, if I understand it, the lead is almost entirely there to avoid predetonation and mrcapitalism's quotes show good progress is made in this area.
Obviously, as Tom indicates as well, the useability of the new fuel in big radials should be tested and demonstrated first, but to my impression the intention behind the phase out of 100LL is not to phase out 100 octane fuel but to move to an unleaded replacement.
Cheers, Erik
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Post by aharon on Aug 3, 2023 16:36:01 GMT -5
Hmm, be aware that everyone quoted in the media is an expert nowadays It is not media It is very famous aviation experts whose names have escaped my memory but I remember learning their facts about this situation from tv . I am just stating what they explained reasoning behind decision of purchase of jet planes by both Buffalo Airways and Everts Air airline. They stated two reasons which I already said in my first post: American and Canadian governments' stopping use of specific fuel called 100LL AvGas that is used by DC-3s, DC-4s, and C-46s, and the second reason is dwindling supply of spare parts for the DC-3s, DC-4s, and C-46s. They said nothing about alternative fuel sources for the same planes that you and mrcapatialism are talking about.
That is all.
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by Erik on Aug 3, 2023 17:35:11 GMT -5
Thanks Aharon, I understand that. I am also aware some legislators are proposing bans on 100LL before a suitable alternative is available, and AOPA among others is fighting premature proposals in order to have a sensible and safe transition to unleaded fuel. My question though was specifically about global warming. Was that a mixup with the environmental concern in question, being lead emissions?
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Aug 3, 2023 19:57:36 GMT -5
As I understand it some of the issues in Canada are due to there being only one manufacturer of 100LL fuel left in the country, and some airports are encountering supply issues.
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Post by Erik on Aug 4, 2023 2:28:13 GMT -5
Yes, I read that too and it's a weakness in the supply chain of course.
BRW, a quote from the article you linked to: "What if I fly a warbird? It will work in your airplane as well. The STC includes all of the World War II engines and all of the post-World War II radial engines."
Cheers, Erik
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