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Post by coenraad on Jul 18, 2010 6:35:52 GMT -5
Thanks Stefan, will try that this week.
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Post by sunny9850 on Jul 19, 2010 18:39:20 GMT -5
OK...let us know. If this does not work then we have a problem with FSX that may or may not show up for everybody. I did get it once now on my FSX install...again not 100% sure about the SPs but I know I do have Acceleration.
IF that workaround does not work the only other option I can think of would be to disable the dsd_supercharger line in the panel.cfg and then try again.
Stefan
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Post by mrcapitalism on Jul 19, 2010 23:10:16 GMT -5
"emergency_boost_type=3" didn't work.
disabling "gauge46=dsd_supercharger!supercharger_transparent, 94,248,20,20" under "[Vcockpit01]" has worked fantastically for me... I'll fly for the next 30 mins to make sure nothing happens
Great idea!!!!
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Post by coenraad on Jul 20, 2010 1:15:55 GMT -5
OK...let us know. If this does not work then we have a problem with FSX that may or may not show up for everybody. I did get it once now on my FSX install...again not 100% sure about the SPs but I know I do have Acceleration. IF that workaround does not work the only other option I can think of would be to disable the dsd_supercharger line in the panel.cfg and then try again. Stefan Had no time to test it yet. By the way Acceleration is the same as SP2. FSX users without acceleration run SP2. Acceleration has SP2 included in their copy. Didn't have much time and will to start up FSX. Goin on vacation in two weeks and a bit busy with work and other stuff. And still struggelig with Dell to fix my laptop, they will take it in Next week. So don't expect too much from me the next 4-5 weeks.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jul 20, 2010 9:10:51 GMT -5
BTW, Acceleration is not the same as SP2. Acceleration includes a new flight model for things like WEP and ADI (as I remember). They aren't in SP2.
Hope this helps,
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Post by coenraad on Jul 20, 2010 9:19:47 GMT -5
Yes they do. SP2 came after Acceleration. As microsoft first wanted to sort of force Acceleration on the people if they wanted performance upgraded. But after allot of complaints they also needed to let the non Acceleration players in on the fun and that is when SP1 and 2 came. I also have the option for WEP etc in my SP2.
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Post by volkerboehme on Jul 20, 2010 10:32:25 GMT -5
Hi,
we'll have to look into the supercharger issue some time, but the guy in our team who knows most about it is currently away. I am not sure whether disabling the 'invisible' gauge isn't spoiling the supercharger model as well. Unfortunately, the dsd_ gauges were written for FS9 and might cause bugs in FSX. That is certainly the case for the fuel dump system, the reason why we have this complex workaround with custom activation etc., but it seems to be true for other systems, at least under certain conditions.
As far as I know, Hansjörg Naegele is currently rewriting his gauge code for FSX, so some issues might be fixed, whenever he is done with it. I don't know for certain, he seems to be quite busy with several other projects as well. It might not perfectly match the current FDE, though.
Apart from that, I still believe that the original FDE release plus bugfix was a pretty good FDE, except for the fact that it had a bug in the fuel system. I'll try to figure out which gauges exactly are needed, maybe this would be an alternative.
Best regards, Volker
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Post by sunny9850 on Jul 20, 2010 22:21:18 GMT -5
Volker is definitely correct that there likely are "negative side-effects" in realism caused by the removal of the dsd_supercharger line from the panel.cfg ..... I honestly did not have time to test this. And definitely do not have the time for a full performance evaluation test as we have done during development of the FDE.
The airplanes from the Get-Go were targeted at FS9 users since that is what most of us in the team use and have. As I recall only 2 of us even own the other sim.
But maybe when Luis comes back or Hansi comes up for air from his other projects this can be looked at more closely.
Stefan
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jul 20, 2010 22:53:23 GMT -5
WEP is in all versions of FS since FS2002, but that's not what I'm really talking about. Acceleration added a (finally) realistic implementation of a supercharged piston engine (i.e. the P-51) in the FS flight model. This is added with Acceleration, and SP2 *doesn't* have it.
Hope this helps,
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Post by coenraad on Jul 21, 2010 14:34:57 GMT -5
Ok, if you say so. Would be weard, as SP2 came after Acceleration. But then again it is microsoft.
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Post by coenraad on Aug 22, 2010 9:53:18 GMT -5
This is indeed a SP2 issue as Tom suggested, there are a few others who fly it on the server i normaly fly on. I talked to one yesterday, he also has the latest FDE update and he runs Acceleration and has no problems at all. Seems like i'll have to go and get my hands on Acceleration in order to have this problem dissapear. Untill then i just fly the L749 wich is just as nice (and looks a bit more sexy)
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Post by coenraad on Aug 22, 2010 11:43:03 GMT -5
Okey i might have found a solution to the problem. Some planes for FSX come with a WEP.gau, the one file SP2 did not have (thanks microsoft). I downloaded a plane, and added the gauge file, and voila, the super chargers no longer quit. But now a different issue seems to have come unless it now is normal. When i did not have the WEP.gau i noticed the MAP jump very high when engaging the second stage (untill it stopped working ofcourse) giving quite allot more throttle to add when climbing to keep the Map up. But now i gain just 6,5" MAP so starting to climb in stage two i allready need 85% throttle just to be on the 44". Here is the image i took at 17.000ft in level flight. The outside temperature is -19deg and heaters are on, speed is 200kias stable. Plane weight is 116.720lbs. So all seems fine, but i can nowhere near reach the 190BMEP the manual subscribes for high cruise, it says 36" at fl200 but i am at 17.000fl and not even able to keep altitude. Could this be that the WEP.gau is not right? Or are these values normal for the new FDE?
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