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Post by volkerboehme on Sept 20, 2010 14:40:35 GMT -5
Hi Manfred,
looking great, as always. If you need a beta tester - you know what you get.
Best regards, Volker
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Post by eddiejez on Sept 20, 2010 14:57:50 GMT -5
:)Hi Manfred, thats lookig good wanderful stuff as usual all the best Edd
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Post by wildbillkelso on Sept 22, 2010 8:33:10 GMT -5
Holy cow! That's great news! Even if it means I'll have to do the 9 repaints I did for the MAAM Dak (USAAF, RCAF, Buffalo, Luftwaffe, TCA) all over again... Cheers, Markus.
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Post by ejoiner on Sept 22, 2010 11:36:01 GMT -5
Markus, please do some different ones. That way we dont have duplicates!
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Post by Willy on Sept 22, 2010 16:41:26 GMT -5
Not everyone has the MAAM DC-3. I can see where duplicates of those paints would come in handy.
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Post by sunny9850 on Sept 22, 2010 19:12:59 GMT -5
Hmmm...only one vertical tail and only two engines. It does look a bit funny for a Connie or any other Lockheed Manfred, but it sure looks great for a Douglas I think if you can make most of the VC functional as you did with the Connie series this has all the right stuff to give MAAM's version a run for the money. Stefan
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Post by wildbillkelso on Sept 24, 2010 8:52:56 GMT -5
Markus, please do some different ones. That way we dont have duplicates! Hmmm - if I'm not too wrong, the MAAM C-47/DC-3 could be one of the most repainted models in the FS world, so it would be hard to avoid "duplicates" at all. I'm quite lazy, Eric, so using references and templates I have on stock already is quite tempting... We'll see! Cheers, Markus.
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Post by mjahn on Sept 24, 2010 11:11:56 GMT -5
I know you've got this one Wild Bill... Quite some astrodome, eh? Also like the canted stabilizer. Whoa, down boy? Pity I got too close for comfort and clipped off a bit of the nose. Back then we had no display on which we could check. I'll give you an idea of the size of the painting canvas soon. Mark/dutch11 - I have no idea what the Cyclone engines looked like or who flew them, any info much appreciated. The P&W's are almost done though, 3d cylinders and cables and all that... Manfred
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Post by Maarten on Sept 24, 2010 11:48:17 GMT -5
Hallo Manfred,
I'll send you some info about Cyclone Threes some time next week. Have to sort them out yet.
Cheers, Maarten
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Post by dutch11 on Sept 24, 2010 12:37:11 GMT -5
Hi Manfred, thanks for your interest. A quick way to see a Cyclone powered DC-3 is to look at the Corsair in "Island in the Sky" if you have it. Maarten almost certainly has more resources than I do, so I'll let him give you what he's got, besides, I haven't figured out the whole posting pictures on the forum thingamajig anyway.
Mark
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Post by Tom Test on Sept 24, 2010 13:53:00 GMT -5
Are you planning to include the glider tow hook package in the model?
This is in the tail cone. It is one of the features that distinguishes a C-47 from a DC-3, but it was not on all C-47s.
I first saw the tow hook on the C-47 in the Airborne Museum in Mere St. Eglise, but did not notice in on post-WWII C-47s in the Air Guard liaison role, nor on any DC-3 conversions.
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Post by okami on Sept 24, 2010 14:09:33 GMT -5
Mark/dutch11 - I have no idea what the Cyclone engines looked like or who flew them, any info much appreciated. The P&W's are almost done though, 3d cylinders and cables and all that... Manfred Here are a couple of links for a Cyclone-powered Dakota. OO-CBB and OO-CBC were two former C-49Ks delivered to SABENA respectively on December 30, 1945, and January 11, 1946. Both flew in their Cyclone configuration until September 1958, when they were upgraded to R-1830s for standardisation with the rest of SABENA's fleet. www.asa-be.com/images/PhotoGallery_BCR2/OO-CAA/OO-CBC.jpgwww.airliners.net/photo/Sabena/Douglas-C-49K-(DC-3)/0892310/L/Note the shorter nacelle when compared to the Wright-engined aircraft. The nacelle is also a different form to that found on the pre-war Cyclone-equiped aircraft, of which SABENA OO-AUI (delivered April 4 1939, shot down May 23 1940) is a good example: www.asa-be.com/images/PhotoGallery_BCR2/OO-AAA/OO-AUI.jpgHope this helps, Nikko
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Post by Tom Test on Sept 24, 2010 14:12:42 GMT -5
Cyclone C-47s?
According to James Fahey's "U.S. Army Aircraft (Heavier-than-Air) 1908-1946" published in 1946 by Ships and Aircraft, Falls Church, Virginia, the Army C-47 designation went only to Twin-Wasp powered aircraft produced for the Army.
The Army impressed 180-200 Wright-engined commercial DC-3s as C-49, C-50 and C-51.
Impressed commercial DC-3s with P&W engines were designated C-48 and C-52; P&W powered aircraft with "Navy engines" that came to the Army were also designated C-52.
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Post by Tom Test on Sept 24, 2010 14:27:42 GMT -5
That prior post is not meant to discourage development of the much-needed model of the Cyclone-engined DC-3, which would work quite well to also represent the Li-2, powered by a Cyclone clone.
I would very much like to have a Cyclone DC-3 in my hangar, as everything I've found is essentially either a C-47/R4D/Dakota, or a post-war conversion. We have no original DC-3s.
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Post by ashaman on Sept 24, 2010 20:19:26 GMT -5
But weren't the Cyclone DC3's the first ones, borne from the DC2 in the 1935, then superseded by the P&W R-1830 14 cylinders double row ( in my ignorance, I always questioned this choice, seen the two engines had a so little displacement difference to be potentially equivalent... but the Cyclone had less, potentially breakable, moving parts... mysteries of military requirements...)? I guess having a shorter nacelles R-1820 DC3 in FS would be nice, though. PS I'm asking here, let it be clear.
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