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Post by davjones on Aug 19, 2013 18:16:44 GMT -5
I'm also eagerly awaiting DCA -- and anything you see fit to do afterward...
Thanks, Chris!
...Dave
Dave Jones Fort McCoy, Florida
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Post by davjones on Aug 19, 2013 18:46:24 GMT -5
In my haste, I forgot to add that I think you should take your time about finishing the project. Don't forget, this is a hobby and supposed to be fun, not a source of pressure over a self-imposed completion date. For what it's worth...
...Dave
Dave Jones Fort McCoy, Florida
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Post by mdeval on Aug 19, 2013 21:10:19 GMT -5
Hey Chris,
Good to hear from you again. Squirming in my seat waiting for DCA. Wanted this one for a long time. Thank you so much in advance for your dedication and hard work.
I have a question with regards to KBOS. Seems like ground control always routes me to rwy 27 for take off and approach sends me to the same for landing regardless of the wind direction. To test this out, I set up a flight today from Logan with the wind blowing straight down rwy 4 (36 deg) at 16 knots. Sure enough ground sent me to 27 for take off. Any thoughts on this. I have NO clue as to how this works within FS9, but if it's a simple fix or slight adjustment of some parameters, I'd sure love to know it......
Thanks again for DCA
Mike
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Post by mdeval on Aug 19, 2013 21:28:11 GMT -5
Just now set the wind at 16 kts from 340 deg for a south departure. Again was sent to 27. What's up.
If this thread is better off in perhaps classic chat, Tom, let me know, OK ?
Mike
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Post by FSMuseum on Aug 20, 2013 7:03:04 GMT -5
In my haste, I forgot to add that I think you should take your time about finishing the project. Don't forget, this is a hobby and supposed to be fun, not a source of pressure over a self-imposed completion date. For what it's worth... ...Dave Dave Jones Fort McCoy, Florida Thanks Dave, I've been thinking on just doing away with release dates and take PMDG's approach: its done when its done. We will see how it turns out though. Hey Chris, Good to hear from you again. Squirming in my seat waiting for DCA. Wanted this one for a long time. Thank you so much in advance for your dedication and hard work. I have a question with regards to KBOS. Seems like ground control always routes me to rwy 27 for take off and approach sends me to the same for landing regardless of the wind direction. To test this out, I set up a flight today from Logan with the wind blowing straight down rwy 4 (36 deg) at 16 knots. Sure enough ground sent me to 27 for take off. Any thoughts on this. I have NO clue as to how this works within FS9, but if it's a simple fix or slight adjustment of some parameters, I'd sure love to know it...... Thanks again for DCA Mike Thanks for the kind words! As for the issue with KBOS, I had not seen this, I've been seeing both myself and the AI take off on runways 9, 27, 15, and 4 (both runways) in the past and during testing. I will look into this some more though. Are you using default ATC?
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Aug 20, 2013 12:21:03 GMT -5
Hi, This runway usage problem happens sometimes when you mess with the default runway arrangements (as we often do backdating airports). Jim Vile calls it a problem that we don't know enough about the default runway information in all the various default BGL files, but I call it an FS bug.
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Post by mdeval on Aug 20, 2013 22:30:05 GMT -5
Hi all, First off, I am using the default ATC. Second, to contradict my report, did an IFR flight today from Portsmouth, NH to KBOS, wind set at 16kts at 340 deg. Ground sent me to rwy 34 for take off and I was soon vectored to 33L in Boston for ILS approach. All seemingly correct. Don't think I've really noticed this phenomenon elsewhere except now that I think about it, it seems that at SFO, I'm always assigned to the "28s" for take off. Never rwy 1.. Have to investigate further.
Again, sorry guys if this is a bit off topic for this particular thread. Since KBOS is Chris' puppy, I just thought he might have some knowledge of the......."problem" ?
Cheers to all,
Mike
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Post by mdeval on Aug 25, 2013 20:56:37 GMT -5
Ok, one more comment and I'll leave this topic alone.
After some experimenting, I've concluded that Pittsburg, Boston, and San Fransisco all SEEM to have issues with runway assingments lining up with wind direction. MOST of the time. At KPIT it's 28C, BOS 27, and SFO the 28s. Again I need to say MOSTLY. The runways can be off by as much as 70 or 80 degrees off the wind and sometimes even a little more. Other times they're right on however. Pretty fun taking off in a fully loaded 1649 with 80 degrees of crosswind.
What I haven't tried yet is to return these airports to default and try the same winds.
Still puzzled but never discouraged,
Mike
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Post by milspecsim on Aug 27, 2013 7:43:26 GMT -5
I get the same issue with Las Vegas. ANy alternatives to stock ATC?
And back on topic, has the Southeast package died?
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Aug 27, 2013 9:14:11 GMT -5
Hi,
I don't know of any program that will change AI runway assignments. It hasn't died, people are just busy...
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Post by Defender on Aug 28, 2013 7:13:01 GMT -5
Hi Chris/Mike,
First of all everything I know about runway selection is from reading Jim Vile's contributions on various forums. Yes it's extremely complicated, affected by many different factors and can be inconsistent.
However I think I found a solution to Mike's KBOS puzzle which might work for you. You need to make two changes to the AFCAD,
1. Go to the runway 15/33 properties and rename it 15R/33L, 2. Go to the 22L/04R and 22R/04L properties and uncheck the "closed for.." boxes so that both are available for both T/O and landing. Or go by my note to Chris below.
The possible reason for this is that runway selection is partly based on approach codes and when you modify an airport with AFCAD it will still use the default approach codes. Default KBOS knows 15/33 only by its modern name 15R/33L and has no codes for 22R/04L nor 09. So in most weather conditions ATC will send neither user nor AI to these runways. Furthermore, 22L/04R is closed for T/O. So let's assume we want to take off in a light wind at 150 degrees, either VFR or IFR. FS9 ignores 15 because it hasn't got the correct code and then moves clockwise to find the next best available runway. But 22L is closed for T/O and 22R has no codes and so it decides on 27! At least that's what seems to happen. However, and this is where selection gets really involved, if you increase the wind to 36 kts, FS9 seems to decide that avoiding cross/tailwind is more important than the approach codes so it now gives you runway 15 for T/O and landing, 4R for ILS in IMC. Selection might also be influenced by your aircraft's empty weight or even your previous weather settings.
Chris, as you probably know, to change 15/33 you could as an option edit the approach codes in the main scenery file (AP929160) or indeed just use ADE9. You might also get away with closing 04L for T/O, 22R for landing as noted on the 1958 approach charts, or even close 22R for both T/O and landing so that 707's etc are forced to use the longer 22L/04R.
Hope this works for you.
Bill
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Aug 28, 2013 9:02:24 GMT -5
Hi,
And I do not suggest editing the default AP files, so that leaves ADE as the logical choice.
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Post by FSMuseum on Aug 28, 2013 16:04:46 GMT -5
Sorry I've been away and with a lack of information! I will soon be taking down fixed release dates, estimations will still be up but I can't make promises. I found an issue with a bunch of lightmaps that I've been using and I've been fixing them slowly to match and work correctly, I expect to have this out next month I would hope. Sorry for the delay guys! As for the KBOS runway issue, I don't think I'll be closing any runways for takeoff and landing but I'll inspect the AFCAD again and try some tests.
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Post by FSMuseum on Sept 15, 2013 3:03:43 GMT -5
Okay guys, another update, I have almost finished DCA as you know, release will be soon but no fixed dates. I have also been thinking about doing a newer version of JFK, both in 58 and 62, to compliment my upcoming 1972/1982/1994 version of JFK coming soon to RetroAI. Tell me what you think!
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Sept 15, 2013 10:13:26 GMT -5
Sounds fine to me. Let me know if you need anything from my original version. The buildings are a mixture of default and GMAX.
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