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Post by Defender on Nov 18, 2015 11:28:20 GMT -5
Ken,
Re the terminal building etc, forget that red appearance, the building I saw is too big to be the terminal, although somewhere else the north side. This video near the beginning shows it to be long and low, not much higher than the surrounding huts, but consistent with the photo taken from the east.
www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+london+airport&qpvt=youtube+london+airport&FORM=VDRE#view=detail&mid=A9617957A636205AFBEBA9617957A636205AFBEB
Towards the end you can see part of another 3 storey building with BOAC on it but that's too far east to be the terminal. You've probably already got Flight Global's 1953 - 1274.pdf which shows it surrounded by huts through to the Bath Road. That probably explains another video showing a sign "Departures" but above a door to a building more like a hut.
Yes, I'll be happy to try your beta. At the moment I'm (slowly) in the process of converting Wolfgang's 1961 AFCAD to a 1959 ADE9X with the help of Flight Global and Google Earth. There's so much more detail available now that Wolfgang may not have had. His existing AFCAD is actually more a 1957-59 layout with the 1961 Oceanic terminal but I'm sure it suits most folk. We all have our own views on user priorities Tom's proposed 1961 will no doubt have the extended 10R/28L and the many extended taxiways and aprons added around 1960/61. My 1959 would easily convert to 1953 but I'm sure you'll prefer to do your own thing.
When you're ready my email is bill749(at)hotmail.com
Bill
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 11:41:20 GMT -5
Hi Al, Many thanks for your reply. As a temporary expedient, which I think is likley to be permanent, I have replaced the fine corrugation with plain walls, but perhaps someone else will come up with a solution, Best wishes, Ken
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Nov 18, 2015 11:45:09 GMT -5
Al is right, this is controlled by mipmapping. I keep mine in FS at 4. You can sometimes also control this in the video card settings. I do see the swirling you are talking about, but I've gotten used to it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 13:48:49 GMT -5
Bill: I had not in fact seen the Flight Global photograph, which is going to necessitate one or two changes. There was a largish dark building of hangar type immediately east of the Control Tower which I have seen on early films but which I thought had been demolished by 1953. I will send the beta immediately, however. Tom: I have Mipmapping set at 4 too. As I don't want the swirls I have changed the wall faces which are affected to plain ones. As I said earlier, it doesn't really make too much difference, Ken
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2015 6:45:13 GMT -5
I hope to release this scenery before Christmas, but there is an issue on which I would be grateful for some assistance. London Heathrow has been a building site for extensive periods, but never more so than in the years between 1946 and 1955. I wish the scenery to reflect this and have therefore created a small building site where the central terminals were created. However, one thing this lacks is the construction vehicles of the period, shown in these stills from a film of 1949. There is nothing of this type that I am aware of in the usual libraries and although I have become reasonably adept at using sketchup to create buildings I have very little idea how to start with vehicles. Advice and guidance would be welcome if anyone can offer any, Ken
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 11:35:00 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 11:39:55 GMT -5
And two more. The control tower on the left with the public viewing area to the right of it. And to the right of that the single storey vip building from which members of the British royal family departed for foreign parts. Those not departing could wave to those who were from the roof, Ken
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Dec 22, 2015 12:29:08 GMT -5
Looking very nice, Ken. After release you'll have to let me know which buildings would have still been present in 1960, if you know that.
Thanks,
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 15:32:58 GMT -5
Tom, A very useful resource is this - a large scale Ordnance Survey map surveyed 1961-1962: maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=51.4803&lon=-0.4490&layers=173Comparison of it with my scenery will reveal just how much I have simplified a large and complex site, but most of my buildings are on it. When I have released I will send you screenshots of parts of this map with the important buildings marked. A very interesting question, to which I do not know the answer, is when the subsidiary runways fell out of use and traffic became concentrated on the two main east-west runways. As I have pointed out before, we are hearing quite a lot these days about a third runway for Heathrow, but in the early fifties it had six, Ken
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Post by Erik on Dec 25, 2015 15:33:26 GMT -5
Ken, that is really getting awfully nice. As to the runways, I cannot give you precise dates but the Flight Archive at flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/ is likely to have the answer somewhere. A very short query brought me to this page for instance, showing the active runways in 1967. For the last subsidiary runway Pprune seems to have the answer here. And while we're at it, how about this 1946 vision... Merry Christmas! Erik
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2015 3:32:32 GMT -5
Erik, Many thanks indeed for this. I knew of the 1946 link - I agree that it is fascinating - but not of the 1967 aerial photo you linked to. What interests me particularly about this is the reference to a Pan Am hangar in the south-east corner to the south of 28L. An aerial photo of 1955 shows a hangar in that area and although I do not have evidence that it belonged to Pan Am then - others may have, of course - I am redoing the scenery to include it. Release is therefore going to be slightly delayed, but I hope with a better end product. On the runways, the number of people who actually know how the airport was operated in the 1950s and of the process by which some of the original six were phased out must be dwindling fast. A merry Christmas to you, Ken
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2015 9:45:30 GMT -5
This is based on a photograph kindly sent to me by Bill Tyne. There are good reasons to suppose that the Pan Am hangar was there c.1954.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Dec 26, 2015 9:52:55 GMT -5
Great! I think that building was there in 1960 too, if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2015 11:53:55 GMT -5
Tom. Yes, what looks very like the same building is on the map of 1961-62.
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