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Post by aharon on Jan 9, 2020 11:02:36 GMT -5
Shalom and greetings all my pals,
If any of you want to do North Pole crossing by flying propeller plane or historic jet from Europe to cross North Pole to refueling stopover at PANC Anchorage on way to final destination in any city in Japan, you need to prepare for possibility of an emergency landing in Arctic Circle.
You are required to have in your plane extra emergency supplies such as parka coats, extra food, and extra water.
More important is you need to train your stewardresses how to use submarine guns. Oh yes it is must in case you encounter polar bears in Alaska or communist soldiers if you drift into Soviet Union or North Korea air space by mistake and wind up being forced down.
Here is example of how KlM airline prepared for any emergency during North Pole crossing between Europe and Japan. Notice how heavily armed the KlM stewardesses were.
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 9, 2020 11:40:05 GMT -5
Nice info, Aharon. SAS did carry more equipment on polar flights.
My SAS DC-7C manual specifies the following extra polar equipment:
Box S.27a: Stove with reflector 3 Cooking pan 3 Snow saw 2 Gill net 1 Snow shovel 3 Snow shoes 3 pair Axe 1 Matches 10 boxes Nylon line 40m Cresset 4 Oilstone and file 1 Mosquito repellent 12 tubes Tin opener 3 Meta tablets 3 boxes Hunting knife 1 Sunglasses 60 pair Ammunition, cal 16 30 Ammunition, cal 8 x 57 30 Whistle 2 Compass 1 Snares, large 5 Snares, small 5 Exposure cream 10 tubes Sykroteinlamella 1 set
Box S.27b: Handbook (This is the Arctic) 1 Pemmican 54 tins Gun (drilling) 1 Rubber gloves 3 pair Mosquito net 60 Dry paint 1.50 kg Paper cup 60
Box S.27e: Furlined jacket 1 Furlined trousers 1 pair Furlined gloves 1 pair Furlined boots 1 pair Balaclava 1 Eye-preserving glasses 1 pair
Sack S.27g: Polar suit, parka 4 Polar suit, trousers 4 pair
Sack S.27k: Sleeping bag, large 4 Sleeping bag, small 11
Quite a bit of kit!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 11:44:36 GMT -5
Oh yes it is must in case you encounter polar bears in Alaska or communist soldiers if you drift into Soviet Union or North Korea air space by mistake and wind up being forced down. Or encounter "The Flying Dutchman", the legendary ghost ship that can never make port and is doomed to sail the oceans forever. According to legend anyone who encountered this ship with a black mast and blood-red sails was destined to be miserable. So still be careful and attentively evrywhere you might be! Bernard
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 9, 2020 11:51:57 GMT -5
PS. This is in addition to the normal emergency equipment:
Life vests at each seat 2 Parachute flares (in the tail cone, released by two handles in the cockpit) Fire extinguishers Fire axe First aid kit Emergency HF transmitter with kite and balloons to extend antenna, crank powered Emergency VHF transmitter Life rafts, 20 person, covered, containing the following equipment: Paddles (glove type) 2 Inflation pump 1 Sponge 1 Raft Repair Kit Plastic bag (water container) 2 Flashlight 1 Plastic whistle 1 Signal mirror 1 Signal lights 4 Signal rockets 2 Compass 1 First aid kit 1 Desalting kit 2 Emergency ration pack 2 Fishing tackle 1 Shark repellent bag 2 Sea Marker bag 2 Religious literature 1 Playing cards 1 Survival handbook 1
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Post by Bjoern on Jan 9, 2020 12:59:03 GMT -5
More important is you need to train your stewardresses how to use submarine guns. Why? Are they moonlighting as secret agents to steal soviet u-boats? (Even "submachine gun" isn't correct as the gal in the photo is holding something from the AR-15 family, an assault rifle.)
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 9, 2020 13:26:00 GMT -5
Hi,
It appears to be an M16A1, introduced to the US Army in 1964. I think?
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Post by aharon on Jan 9, 2020 14:09:12 GMT -5
More important is you need to train your stewardresses how to use submarine guns. Why? Bjoen, Because I mentioned the specific reasons in my original post. It is to shoot at polar bears. Stewardresses were required to train in submarine guns or assault guns and they were required to be armed during Polar flights. Tom, thanks for cool list of emergency equipments but mosquito lotions and nets? ? In Arctic winters? You mentioned ammunition but no mention of what guns in your list?? Regards, Aharon
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 9, 2020 15:10:39 GMT -5
The flights flew in summer as well, and if you haven't seen any polar nature documentaries that is where the mosquitoes are the worst in the world!
The gun in Box S27.b says it is a "drilling" gun, which I assume means a military type weapon?
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Post by stansdds on Jan 10, 2020 6:43:34 GMT -5
M-16 vs polar bear? I can think of far better calibers and rifles for that job.
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Post by Bjoern on Jan 11, 2020 9:46:05 GMT -5
Because I mentioned the specific reasons in my original post. It is to shoot at polar bears. Stewardresses were required to train in submarine guns or assault guns and they were required to be armed during Polar flights. My remark about u-boats was a poke at "submarine guns", which is just plain wrong in the context of airlines. Please check your autocorrect settings, as it produced the wrong term yet again (see the bold mark above). I mean, it does make for a nice mental image though. A bunch of stewardesses of a crashed airliner punching out the crew of a soviet submarine and then shooting up the adjacent secret soviet polar base with the submarine's deck gun. Maybe I should pitch the idea for a movie based around this to Tarantino.
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Post by aharon on Jan 11, 2020 10:33:12 GMT -5
ohhh I see Bjoern Sorry about my typo
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by jagdflieger on Jan 20, 2020 16:39:43 GMT -5
The AR rifle looks to be an AR-10, the original iteration of Eugene Stoner's rifle which became the M16/M4/AR15. It was chambered in 7.62 NATO (308 Winchester). Still a little lite for a one ton bear, but better than nothing. Here's a link to the AR-10 Rifle. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-10I used a derivative of the AR-10, the SR-25 for a short while in the late 90s while on a military assignment.
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