AI Traffic Update

Tom/CalClassic
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AI Traffic Update Jan 15, 2010 18:06:16 GMT -5

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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 15, 2010 18:06:16 GMT -5

Hi all,

I have released another AI Traffic update for our classic propliner era.

It's available from my AI Aircraft page.

Note that there are now 6 aircraft files to download instead of 5.

Note also that if you have manually installed any extra liveries into any of the AI aircraft, you will need to back up that plane's aircraft.cfg file before installing this update.

So, what's new?

New Aircraft:

PBY Catalina (Mike Stone) - Panair do Brasil
Grumman Albatross (Mike Stone) - Trust Territory, TALOA
Scottish Twin Pioneer (Mike Stone) - Borneo, De Kroonduif
Percival Pembroke (Manfred Jahn) - Polynesian
Avro York (Manfred Jahn) - Middle East, Scottish, Hunting Clan
Shorts Sandringham (Jens Kristensen) - RAI, Aquila, Ansett
Airspeed Ambassador (George Hauzenberger) - BEA, BKS, Dan-Air

Upgraded model:
DC-3 (JAI)

New Liveries - a total of 233 new ones

Flight Plans:

1957:

Scheduled:

Aaxico 1959 NEW!
Aden 1957 NEW!
Aer Lingus 1956 NEW!
Aerocondor 1963 NEW!
Aerolineas Argentinas 1957 NEW!
Air Ceylon 1959 NEW!
Air Laos 1955 NEW!
Air Liban 1956 NEW!
Air Madagascar 1957 NEW!
Airlines of NSW 1959 NEW!
Airwork 1957 NEW!
Alaska 1959 NEW!
Alitalia-LAI 1957 NEW!
Allegheny 1959e NEW!
All Nippon (FEA/JHAT) 1957 NEW!
Ansett/ANA 1957 NEW!
Avensa 1958/59 NEW!
Braathens SAFE 1956 NEW!
Braniff 1958 NEW!
British Guiana 1963 NEW!
CAAC 1957 NEW!
Canadian Pacific 1957 NEW!
Caribair 1959 NEW!
Central 1956 NEW!
Channel Air Bridge 1956e NEW!
Cinta 1958 NEW!
Cohata 1963e NEW!
Cordova 1963 NEW!
De Kroonduif 1957 NEW!
Ethiopian 1956 NEW!
Faucett 1957 NEW!
Frontier 1958 NEW!
Gulf Aviation 1959 NEW!
Hunting Clan 1957 NEW!
Icelandair 1956 NEW!
Interflug/Lufthansa 1957 NEW!
Iran Air 1957 NEW!
Kar Air 1957 NEW!
KLM 1957 NEW!
Lake Central 1955 NEW!
LAN Chile 1959 NEW!
LAV 1956 NEW!
Lufthansa 1958 NEW!
MIAT Mongolian 1963 NEW!
Misrair 1959 NEW!
North Central 1957 NEW!
North Japan 1962e
Northeast 1958 NEW!
Northern Wings 1963 NEW!
Ozark 1959 NEW!
Pacific Northern 1958 NEW!
Panair do Brasil (PBY) 1956 NEW!
Royal Air Cambodge 1958 NEW!
Royal Air Maroc 1957 NEW!
Sabena 1958 NEW!
Silver City 1961/1958 NEW!
Southern 1958 NEW!
Syrian 1959 NEW!
TACA 1956 NEW!
TAIP 1959e NEW!
TAN 1956 NEW!
Taxader 1963 NEW!
Transair Canada 1958 NEW!
Trans American 1956 NEW!
Trans Australian 1956 NEW!
Trans Caribbean 1958 NEW!
Trans-Texas 1958 NEW!
Transcontinental 1959/60 NEW!
Transocean 1958 NEW!
Tunis Air 1958 NEW!
West Coast 1958 NEW!

Based on FSAviator's notes or other sources (but not real schedules):

Balair NEW!
Braathens SAFE (Charter) NEW!
Hunting Clan Africargo NEW!
Independent NEW!
Orion NEW!
Scottish NEW!
Sobelair NEW!
Transair Sweden NEW!

1959:

Scheduled:

Aaxico 1959 NEW!
Aden 1957 NEW!
Aer Lingus 1959e NEW!
Aerocondor 1963 NEW!
Aerolineas Argentinas 1959 NEW!
Air Ceylon 1959 NEW!
Air Inter 1960 NEW!
Air Liban 1958 NEW!
Air Madagascar 1957 NEW!
Airlines of NSW 1959 NEW!
Airwork 1959 NEW!
Alaska 1959 NEW!
Allegheny 1959 NEW!
American 1959 NEW!
Austrian 1958 NEW!
Avensa 1958/59 NEW!
BOAC 1960 NEW!
Braathens SAFE 1961 NEW!
British Guiana 1963 NEW!
CAAC 1957 NEW!
Caribair 1959 NEW!
Central 1958 NEW!
Channel Air Bridge 1956e NEW!
Cinta/ALA 1959 NEW!
Cordova 1963 NEW!
Cohata 1963e NEW!
CSA Czechoslovakia 1959 NEW!
De Kroonduif 1958 NEW!
Dominicana 1959 NEW!
Eastern 1960 NEW!
Eastern Provincial 1968e NEW!
Falck 1959 NEW!
Faucett 1960 NEW!
Gateway 1959 NEW!
Gulf Aviation 1959 NEW!
Hunting Clan 1959 NEW!
Icelandair 1957 NEW!
Irish International 1959 NEW!
Kar Air 1957 NEW!
LACSA 1959 NEW!
Lake Central 1955 NEW!
LAN Chile 1959 NEW!
LANICA 1959 NEW!
LAV 1956 NEW!
Lebanese Intl 1958 NEW!
MIAT Mongolian 1963 NEW!
Misrair 1959 NEW!
Northern Wings 1963 NEW!
Pacific Northern 1958 NEW!
Panair do Brasil (PBY) 1956 NEW!
Royal Air Cambodge 1958 NEW!
Royal Air Maroc 1959 NEW!
Sabena 1959 NEW!
Sierra Leone 1963 NEW!
Silver City 1961/1958 NEW!
Sobelair 1958 NEW!
Southern 1958 NEW!
Syrian 1959 NEW!
TACA 1958 NEW!
TAIP 1959 NEW!
Taxader 1963 NEW!
TRANSA Chile 1959 NEW!
Transair Canada 1958 NEW!
Trans Arabia 1963e NEW!
Trans-Canada 1960e NEW!
Transportes Aéreos de Timor 1963 NEW!
Trans-Texas 1958 NEW!
Transcontinental 1960 NEW!
Tunis Air 1958 NEW!
United 1959 NEW!
West Coast 1961 NEW!

Based on FSAviator's notes or other sources (but not real schedules):

Aero Transport Flugbetreibsgeselschaft NEW!
Austria Flugdienst NEW!
Balair NEW!
Braathens SAFE (Charter) NEW!
Continental NEW!
Eros NEW!
Hunting Clan Africargo NEW!
Independent NEW!
Orion NEW!
Sobelair NEW!
Tradair NEW!
Transair Sweden NEW!
Trek NEW!
Universal Basle NEW!

1962:

Scheduled:

Aer Lingus 1962 NEW!
Aerocondor 1963 NEW!
Aerolineas Vega 1963 NEW!
Aeronaves de Mexico 1962e NEW!
Air France 1962 NEW!
Air Guinee 1963 NEW!
All Nippon 1962 NEW!
Ariana Afghan 1962 NEW!
Avensa 1958/59 NEW!
Avianca 1963 NEW!
Bahamas 1961/62 NEW!
BOAC 1962 NEW!
Borneo 1963 NEW!
Braathens SAFE 1963 NEW!
Braniff 1961 NEW!
British Guiana 1963 NEW!
British United 1961 NEW!
Canadian Pacific 1962 NEW!
Channel Air Bridge 1962 NEW!
Cohata 1963 NEW!
Cordova 1963 NEW!
De Kroonduif 1963 NEW!
Dominicana 1963 NEW!
Eastern 1963 NEW!
Eastern Provincial 1968e NEW!
El Al 1962 NEW!
Fiji 1963 NEW!
Gulf Aviation 1963 NEW!
Interflug/Lufthansa 1963 NEW!
Jordan Airways 1962 NEW!
Korean National 1963 NEW!
LACSA 1963 NEW!
Lebanese Intl 1960 NEW!
LIAT 1963 NEW!
Lufthansa 1962 NEW!
Luxair 1967e NEW!
MIAT Mongolian 1963 NEW!
Middle East 1962 NEW!
Mt. Cook and Southern Lakes 1963 NEW!
Northern Wings 1963 NEW!
Olympic 1962 NEW!
Pakistan Intl 1962 NEW!
Panair do Brasil (PBY) 1964 NEW!
Papuan 1963 NEW!
RAI 1963 NEW!
Rhodesian Air Services 1964 NEW!
Royal Air Cambodge 1958 NEW!
Royal Nepal 1963 NEW!
Sabena 1962 NEW!
SAFE Air 1960 NEW!
Seaboard World 1962 NEW!
Sierra Leone 1963 NEW!
South African 1962 NEW!
South Pacific 1962 NEW!
Southeast (FL) 1963 NEW!
Taxader 1963 NEW!
Transair Canada 1958 NEW!
Trans Arabia 1963 NEW!
Trans-Canada 1962 NEW!
Transpac 1963 NEW!
Transportes Aéreos de Timor 1963 NEW!
Transportes Aéreos da Guiné Portuguesa 1963 NEW!
TREK Lugdiens 1963e NEW!
Trust Territory 1963 NEW!
West Coast 1961 NEW!

Based on FSAviator's notes or other sources (but not real schedules; 79 airlines):

Aero Transport Flugbetreibsgeselschaft NEW!
Austria Flugdienst NEW!
Balair NEW!
Braathens SAFE (Charter) NEW!
Caledonian NEW!
Coastal NEW!
Edde NEW!
Eros NEW!
Flying Enterprise NEW!
Nordair Denmark NEW!
Scanair NEW!
Sterling NEW!
Tradair NEW!
Transair Sweden NEW!
Trans European NEW!
Transported Aereos de Cabo Verde NEW!
Servicio de Transportes Aereos NEW!
Stewart Air Service NEW!
Universal Basle NEW!

Let me know here in this thread if you see any problems.

Enjoy,

Last Edit: Jan 17, 2010 10:34:17 GMT -5 by Tom/CalClassic

Tom Gibson
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okami Seven Seas Posts: 1,021	AI Traffic Update Jan 15, 2010 18:48:30 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by okami on Jan 15, 2010 18:48:30 GMT -5 ... over a thousand liveries... wow. I'm speechless

Wolfgang Seven Seas You can't fight in here Gentlemen. This is the War Room ! Posts: 1,221	AI Traffic Update Jan 15, 2010 19:47:40 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Wolfgang on Jan 15, 2010 19:47:40 GMT -5 Indeed, what a big pack again. Thank you very much Tom and to all involved. Wolfgang

acourt Super Connie Posts: 376	AI Traffic Update Jan 15, 2010 21:48:21 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by acourt on Jan 15, 2010 21:48:21 GMT -5 You guys are the greatest! Thanks to everyone involved ;D Al
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chris_c
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AI Traffic Update Jan 16, 2010 0:46:17 GMT -5

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Post by chris_c on Jan 16, 2010 0:46:17 GMT -5

Thanks Tom, this is awesome.

Dumb question though, the install and all went well but I am using Glenn Duncan's ATC43 scenery to represent the poorer aviation infrastructure in these areas even after the war. Perhaps not correct but fun and flavourful. However, GOOY Dakar is replaced by GORF Eknes Army airfield so I used Traffic Tools and find/replace to decompile the 1957 Traffic.bgl, edit it and then recompile the .bgl file.

So far so good, the static CalClassic traffic shows up fine but I did not see any live traffic. Glenn's ATC43 traffic is not installed in this installation (but it works fine in GW3) so there should not be any conflicts there but nothing seems to come or go from GORF.

I backed up the original files so returning to GOOY is no problem but I figured swapping GORF for GOOY should have worked. Obviously was wrong.

Any suggestions (from anybody) as to what I broke and if there's a fix to get CalClassic traffic to GORF? As an aside the CC traffic works just fine at SBNT Natal and although not all aircraft park near the terminal I have no problem with that.

Thanks in advance

Chris

emfrat
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AI Traffic Update Jan 16, 2010 3:50:24 GMT -5

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Post by emfrat on Jan 16, 2010 3:50:24 GMT -5

Hello Chris -
For that sort of global change I use AITM, which lets me say 'send all flights into VHHH to VHHX instead', for example. Of course the replacement airport must be present in the appropriate Airports.txt file, with its correct Code/Lat/Long/Alt info, before this will work.

I don't know Glenn's AI software, but I can see the above as a mechanism that could cause the effect you are seeing. Which traffic file is sending aircraft to GORF - Tom's or Glenn's? Maybe Glenn's Airports file does not have a GORF.

This is very much a stab in the dark, but I hope it helps.

MikeW

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ozbeowulf
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AI Traffic Update Jan 16, 2010 4:33:51 GMT -5

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Post by ozbeowulf on Jan 16, 2010 4:33:51 GMT -5

Hi, Chris...

A couple of things that may or may not help you....

First, there is/was no GORF airport in the real world, as far as I know. I pulled that designation out of the air when I created Eknes Field and excluded GOOY. I guess you could use Traffic Tools to change GORF's designator to GOOY, but it's probably not a good idea, because...

Secondly, Eknes Field only existed for a short time. According to the info I found while researching the ATC Southern Route, Eknes Field was opened in January 1943 but it was shut down in June 1944 when operations shifted to the newer Mallard Field at Dakar. I assume GOOY evolved out of Mallard Field.

Since I used 1943 as the date for my ATC scenery, I used Eknes... plus I like the can-do spirit of the rugged little strip catering to those long overwater flights from Natal, etc. It really doesn't fit too well with the postwar GOOY Dakar operation, though.

Cheers,

Glenn

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Starting a jet is like turning on a ceiling fan.

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AI Traffic Update Jan 16, 2010 11:29:43 GMT -5

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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 16, 2010 11:29:43 GMT -5

Hi,

If you are seeing AI aircraft parked at GORF, then the propliner traffic IS using the airport just fine.

To see something arrive and depart, you must be there at the right time. By the late 1950's traffic was pretty low at Dakar, and mostly at night. In the 1957 traffic, if you go to GORF at 16:45 GMT on a Monday, you should see a UAT Heron take off.

Hope this helps,

Last Edit: Jan 16, 2010 17:24:25 GMT -5 by Tom/CalClassic

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AI Traffic Update Jan 16, 2010 11:39:30 GMT -5

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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 16, 2010 11:39:30 GMT -5

Well, I forgot a part of this AI update.

I was going to include the AI Sound Effects I had developed over a year ago, but forgot all about them. So I have updated the AI Aircraft page to add them as an optional file in this package.

If you have already downloaded the update but never installed the sounds, feel free to do it now. If you already have the AI Sounds package installed, there are no changes so don't bother.

But one thing I did forget about was to add the proper sound effect lines in the upgraded DC-3 and new AI Catalina (which uses land airports, unlike the Goose and Albatross).

The files (#1 and #2) have now been updated with the new cfg files. So if you have downloaded and installed the AI update before I posted this message, you will need to either download and install AI Aircraft files #1 and #2 again, or edit the DC-3's and Catalina's aircraft.cfg file - if you also install the sounds zip file and want to hear the tire chirp.

Just open up the plane's aircraft.cfg file (in the FS9/Aircraft/aidc3 and FS9/Aircraft/AI Catalina folders) and find the [EFFECTS] section. Then copy and paste in this touchdown= line, replacing the one that is already there:

touchdown=fx_tchdwn_tires //fx_tchdwn, 1

Save the files and your done.

Oh, one other thing - the new Grumman Albatross will not fly properly without new water airports, which will become available when Mike releases his Asia Pacific scenery package, hopefully in a few months or so. So don't bother looking for it yet.

Sorry,

Last Edit: Jan 16, 2010 11:40:57 GMT -5 by Tom/CalClassic

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chris_c
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AI Traffic Update Jan 16, 2010 14:03:04 GMT -5

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Post by chris_c on Jan 16, 2010 14:03:04 GMT -5

Thanks to all for your input, I went to GORF at the time indicated by Tom and lo, the Heron took off successfully having taxied from a dispersement area. Cool, I just wasn't patient enough.

As for GOOY vs GORF I suppose my FS world is more representive than authentic. Had read about the crash of a BSAA York at Dakar in 1947 where the poor airfield infrastructure was a contributing factor.

www.flywiththestars.co.uk/Documents/dakar.htm

Glenn's GORF provides a primative feel even if using it post-war is not historically correct. If I find myself in that part of the world later in the era, disabling the ATC-43 scenery is easy enough and the original traffic.bgl just needs to be renamed to restore GOOY.

Many of my FS flights pre-date the CalClassic 1957 traffic files anyway but I cannot see not using them for that reason. They add so much to the FS world. Best Regards

Chris

Last Edit: Jan 16, 2010 14:08:02 GMT -5 by chris_c

ozbeowulf
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AI Traffic Update Jan 16, 2010 17:27:50 GMT -5

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Post by ozbeowulf on Jan 16, 2010 17:27:50 GMT -5

Hi, Chris...

I'm glad you're enjoying using GORF. That's what counts. I'm sure we all have customised our FS installations in various ways that are not strictly correct but suit us better.

My historical comments re Eknes were meant only as background info.

Cheers,

Glenn

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AI Traffic Update Jan 16, 2010 20:16:38 GMT -5

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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 16, 2010 20:16:38 GMT -5

Hi again,

Wolfgang found another error (thanks!). Turns out due to an unfortunate swapping of aircraft numbers in the 1959 Aerolineas Argentinas flight plan, I had DC-3's flying all the important international routes! They should be flown by Comet 4's. In fact, all AA flights were flown by the wrong aircraft. This has been fixed, so you should download and install the traffic file again if you want to fix this. This is the only change made.

Sorry,

Last Edit: Jan 16, 2010 20:17:22 GMT -5 by Tom/CalClassic

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okami
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AI Traffic Update Jan 17, 2010 19:48:56 GMT -5

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Post by okami on Jan 17, 2010 19:48:56 GMT -5

Jan 16, 2010 20:16:38 GMT -5 Tom/CalClassic said:

Hi again,

Wolfgang found another error (thanks!). Turns out due to an unfortunate swapping of aircraft numbers in the 1959 Aerolineas Argentinas flight plan, I had DC-3's flying all the important international routes! They should be flown by Comet 4's. In fact, all AA flights were flown by the wrong aircraft. This has been fixed, so you should download and install the traffic file again if you want to fix this. This is the only change made.

Sorry,

That I would have loved to have seen - Transatlantic Dakota to London. XD Somehow, a Sunderland seems more in place for that (which reminds me - no AA Sunderlands?)

Last Edit: Jan 17, 2010 19:49:39 GMT -5 by okami

Tom/CalClassic Administrator Jets are for Kids! Posts: 19,623	AI Traffic Update Jan 17, 2010 20:49:08 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 17, 2010 20:49:08 GMT -5 No, they didn't make it into this update...
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eddiejez Starliner Posts: 517	AI Traffic Update Jan 19, 2010 10:44:47 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by eddiejez on Jan 19, 2010 10:44:47 GMT -5 hi Tom, thanks for the AI traffic up date its very nice i like the ambasador sandringham and avro york !
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 15, 2010 18:06:16 GMT -5

Post by okami on Jan 15, 2010 18:48:30 GMT -5

Post by Wolfgang on Jan 15, 2010 19:47:40 GMT -5

Post by acourt on Jan 15, 2010 21:48:21 GMT -5

Post by chris_c on Jan 16, 2010 0:46:17 GMT -5

Post by emfrat on Jan 16, 2010 3:50:24 GMT -5

Post by ozbeowulf on Jan 16, 2010 4:33:51 GMT -5

Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 16, 2010 11:29:43 GMT -5

Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 16, 2010 11:39:30 GMT -5

Post by chris_c on Jan 16, 2010 14:03:04 GMT -5

Post by ozbeowulf on Jan 16, 2010 17:27:50 GMT -5

Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 16, 2010 20:16:38 GMT -5

Post by okami on Jan 17, 2010 19:48:56 GMT -5

Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 17, 2010 20:49:08 GMT -5

Post by eddiejez on Jan 19, 2010 10:44:47 GMT -5