Maybe my eyes are deceiving me then, they are certainly not getting any better. Seriously, though, looking at the blowup below I have no problem seeing the dayglo paint around the FORCE lettering. Maybe it is because I am liminally aware that there was such a pattern. It is documented on other pics of C Connies -- cp Steve Ginter, Naval Fighters #8, Lockheed C-121 Constellation, p30. Also p29 for a top view of the tailplane surfaces of 4151, which look like white to me... (could make a scan, I suppose?)
Ok Manfred. My apologies. I mistook the distinct rear area of the radome for the day glo and failed to take sufficient account of your comment on the disappearing cheatline. Here is the latest version. Cockpit frames have been left grey for the moment.
Only 33 C-121Cs were produced by Lockheed (the later C-121Gs were all ex-Navy R7V-1s transferred to the USAF) and all went to the 41st and 76th Transport Squadrons at Charleston. Far more Warning Star and weather reconnaissance C-121s were built, and that partly explains why there are so many more surviving photographs of them. Construction Number 4192 - USAF serial 54-173 - was delivered to the 76th on 10th February 1956 and named 'City of San Juan'. Unlike 'City of Winnipeg' it does not have this name on the surviving photograph, so possibly it was abandoned or had not been given at the time the photograph was taken. On 9th October, 1962 it was transferred to the Pennsylvania Air National Guard. It had a longer history than most C-121s if not quite as long as that of the Breitling Constellation. Named 'City of Santo Domingo' by December 1988 it was ditched in the sea off Puerto Rico on 5th April 1990 after two of the three engines with which the pilot started the flight failed. The motto of the 76th was 'Safety, Spirit, Service' and though their insignia does not display sufficiently well on the aircraft I have also added it to the airstairs. Screenshots taken at MAIW Charleston, though as I am familiar with Al's skills at airport making I look forward to the new (old) Charleston.
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Ah, great "nose job". Apparently in later ANG service many reverted to plain natural metal overall, some with identical dayglos; that and the catchy ANG logo and lettering on the tail would look very pretty, too...
Of course, in the FSX models converted by Tom those textures could be boosted up to 2048 or even 4096 with lots and lots of fine detail added.
Ken, these repaints are looking great. I am glad Manfred reminded me of his old repaints so I went to download them only to find I had already had them but never installed, they look great along with your earlier release. I am contemplating changing a least some of the AI to use the high definition models so I can have some variety of serials and paint styles. It would also nice if someone would paint the RV versions in MATS format of the 57-62 years so there would be round window versions as well. The more serials you paint up the more variety we can have in the AI and flying.
Ken, I am going to send you a copy of the airport as it is at this point (I am working on it a little each day) either later today or tomorrow so you can comment and make suggestions. I just need to make sure I have everything checked out to make sure you have what you need to test with. This version uses dual plumbing (separate in and Out) taxi ways so the Military side can pull in and out properly, something I do for most of my Military airports for our era.
Hi Al, All that sounds very good. I have reworked the one (4175 bare metal) I issued the other week a little so there are the two versions of 4175 and the one of 4192. However, now that I have the standard MATS paint which they bore when they emerged from Lockheed it is relatively easy to change serial numbers. There are a number of Navy round window paints available but of course they did not fly from Charleston; perhaps this is irrelevant. I am always happy to help with your airports and as you know am reasonable when it comes to supplying eye candy while you do the heavy lifting. I have changed my e-mail address since we were last in touch, but have sent you a message on here with the new one, Ken
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Thank you Darren. Here is another aircraft of the 76th Transport Squadron parked at the new (old) Charleston. This is Lockheed Construction Number 4194, USAF 54-175, delivered to the 76th on 24th Feb 1956 and transferred to the Air National Guard in August 1962. This paint is based on a photograph taken at Prestwick (see earlier in the thread) and the radome is seemingly identical to those in a Lockheed photograph probably of late 1955 which shows five C-121Cs lined up at Burbank before delivery to MATS Atlantic (Marson second edition, vol. i. p. 328). One shows the MATS lettering above the windows (that area is not visible on the others) so obviously that was part of the factory paint job.
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Yes, I shall publish the two paints of CN4175 and the two of the 76th Squadron aircraft, four in all. I have been tinkering with them to some effect and think they are now finished but want to test fly for a day or two before they go out because it is dreadfully easy to miss things. The Lockheed photo I mentioned in my last post makes the bare metal version of 4175 all the more interesting, because it seems unlikely that Lockheed delivered it like that. Either the 41st stripped off the white top from the original livery and it was then eventually painted back into that livery, or the bare metal was not an early livery it was a late one, in which case the apparent dates of the two photographs which show it would have to be reversed. Al is working on his scenery of Charleston and although I may upload the aircraft first simmers in the US will find the scenery an ideal complement. The great thing about MATS is that you can fly all over the world and I do most of mine in Europe.
Just a minor point, are these based on model.1049vc_rsf, ie the H model _with_ 'spinner afterbodies'? I believe the version without them, ie model.1049vc_rf, included in the R7V-1.zip package, may have been more common (see Breitling Connie).
Yes, they are Manfred. I have not come across R7V-1.zip before, but have just downloaded it from Flightsim and will need to investigate further. It is from 2009. Have there been subsequent updates which might affect things?