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Post by jwh on Mar 10, 2021 4:48:11 GMT -5
Two pages saved from an Australian "Walkabout" magazine published in August 1940. Pretty interesting reading from a wonderful bygone era.   Would have been a wonderful trip. John |
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Mar 10, 2021 10:42:48 GMT -5
Nice story. But I think the first picture is of a takeoff, not a landing. 😎
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Post by JasonK..AKA "Pal Joey." on Mar 10, 2021 13:38:44 GMT -5
That, or was one heck of a bounce!
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Post by nmlw on Mar 10, 2021 13:39:26 GMT -5
Maybe they just did pretty hefty bounce when landing.  Good article though. |
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Post by aerofoto on Mar 10, 2021 14:31:59 GMT -5
Been there .... done that (a very heavy TO on a GRUMMAN WIDGEON one day during 1984) .... and in the same place too .... and got a "mighty sore" vertebrae as well as "A NASTY FRIGHT" a result  Let me just say .... "from my own personal experience" water "IS" sometimes as hard as it "IS" unforgiving too  Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by chris_c on Mar 10, 2021 14:58:28 GMT -5
There are no apparent flaps deployed. Presumably flapless takeoffs would not be surprising but alighting flapless would be unusual, particularly since it appears that this is all happening with land approaching (fast!). I will vote for takeoff and a captioning error by the editorial staff.
Chris
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Post by aerofoto on Mar 10, 2021 15:52:14 GMT -5
On "some" marine aircraft (don't know about the big old flying boats though) the flaps are retracted at an early stage of both the TO and landing (as an operational technique .... usually subject to prevailing water conditions on any particular day) .... in order to limit potential for damage to these surfaces by spray impact.
Seen the effect of that .... on GRUMMAN WIDGEON's too aboard which I used to fly very regularly.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by jwh on Mar 10, 2021 17:00:20 GMT -5
I think it is definitely a take off.
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Post by mrcapitalism on Mar 10, 2021 21:52:53 GMT -5
another for judging it a takeoff,
looks like a lot of prop wash is disturbing the water as well.
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Post by Pixel Pilot on Mar 11, 2021 10:16:35 GMT -5
Aerofoto, I read somewhere a long time ago that at 100 mph water is as hard as concrete. So I'm sure you felt that Widgeon's contact with the water.
Ed
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Post by aerofoto on Mar 11, 2021 14:55:22 GMT -5
"IS IT EVER" !!!! .... especially captive/combined with both acceleration as well an "unwanted" micro-burst imposed ROD ("at TO") .... and into a choppy sea condition we were only at around 75-85 KTS as we impacted. "DID I EVER" !!!! .... and lived to tell the tale too. Apart from a sore vertebrae and "A NASTY FRIGHT" I was OK .... but .... we busted a float and did "A LOT" of other damage to the WIDGEON that day and as a result of this incident. The WIDGEON was out of service and under repair for 8 months though and following this incident, but, it apparently never flew right afterward .... or so I heard. I was flying again .... on the GOOSE .... a few days later though .... best way to force myself to overcome the fright .... and which I did I wrote an article about it, which I still have, but, have never published. I loved the GRUMMAN amphibians .... both the GOOSE (in particular) and the WIDGEON. Between 1984 and 1989 I was flying o them almost every weekend. As this thread's about Trans-Tasman Flying Boats (I suppose amphibians are allowed) .... a little while back I wrote a 2-part feature about the NZ GRUMMAN amphibians and which (if anyone's interested) is accessible per the following link .... "ECHOES OF AN ERA" (PART 1 & 2)tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/5950/lifetime-interest-27-years-researchAs I've implied above .... I loved the GOOSE and WIDGEON .... can't beat the sensation and sound of a/the water TO .... GRUMMAN WIDGEON TOwww.youtube.com/watch?v=VinsHMCH_dwGRUMMAN GOOSE TO (AKL/NZ)www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJunmmcNBL0Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by jwh on Mar 14, 2021 5:25:30 GMT -5
The caption was no doubt written by someone at the magazine no with experience of aviation. Very much like those so called aviation consultants who cut in film clips of a P-47 firing when they are doing a documentary on the "Battle of Britain".
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Mar 14, 2021 10:07:34 GMT -5
I see that movie problem all time. Things like a DC-8 taking off and a 707 landing.
Speaking of movies, I just saw a trailer on TV for a new Cold War spy movie that included scenes of a very nice old paint BEA Viscount. They go by so quick I can’t tell if they are real or CGI.
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Post by jwh on Mar 15, 2021 1:57:09 GMT -5
Hi Tom
I really find things like that so galling. Especially from people who should know better. Here in Brisbane in the early hours of the morning we get replays of the old "Dangerman" and "The Baron" series from the early 60s. They often show clips of European and Middle East airport terminals and early jets and propliners. Sort of brings a lot of the CalClassic sceneries to life.
John
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Good article though.
