Post by biggiraffe on Aug 10, 2021 16:49:53 GMT -5
Hello, Does buying only the Ground Environment Pro give an improvement, or do I really need the better mesh along with it? My thinking had been to find FS Global first, but maybe I am thinking backwards?
If I could only have one I would definitely go for the mesh. It will be interesting to see whether the textures are better than Silver Wings, but I have always been happy with them and they are freeware.
There are plenty of addons enhancing or modifing environment. I tried and used lot of them without any satisfying results. Most of them still create too much high-rise buildings. Finally I did a mix with Silver Wing and got more suitable towns which more or less look like as they were in the Sixties.
As an exemple the comparaison of Bangui, the capital of Central African Republic:
the city by default
the city modified with Silver Wing textures
Last Edit: Aug 11, 2021 13:13:21 GMT -5 by Deleted
There used to be FreeMeshX which did the same thing but was a free download (albeit a very large download). Its not that long ago that I downloaded it but all the links I can find now go to a dead page on what looks like an Indonesian gambling site! I'm sure that isn't where mine came from, so maybe some more diligant seaching would find the right page.
Just another point about FSG2010 that might be of interest.
Years ago I bought the FSGenesis mesh CD set which I really liked at the time but then I noticed from one of Connieguy's Shannon screenshots that there were mountains in the far distance that did not appear the same on my screen. So he recommended FSG2010 for which I'm eternally grateful.
What was happening is that the FSGenesis mesh was suddenly reverting to default at about 18-20nm whereas with FSG2010 you get good recognisable detail up to at least 40nm. So my conclusion is that for "low and slow" flight then indeed go for the best LOD mesh but for airline type flying FSGlobal 2010 is better.
PS I found this LOD detail for FSG2010 on line,
LOD12 (FS-Mesh- and sourcedata in 9m resolution!) for Hawaii (complete)
and the southwest of the US, south of 38°N and west of 108°W (ca. Mesa Verde
-> Point Reyes)
High Quality Coverage of Northamerica (and p.Canada!): nationwide LOD11
Greenland, Iceland and Scandinavia in LOD 9 (76m; standard SRTM resolution)
additional high resolution areas in Europe in LOD11 (19m): High Tatra,
Scottland, Hardangervidda (Norway)
Russia / Sibiria in LOD9.
Antarctica in LOD8
sophisticated new algorithm for correct views of ridges and peaks (most of
them should have been higher and will now be nearer to actual value)
new algorithm for reducing irrelevant data for higher data compression
new algorithm for finding and correcting errors
Airport-Patches for prominent problem areas
a tool for the user to correct wrong airport elevations (AFX)
Last Edit: Aug 15, 2021 7:11:07 GMT -5 by Defender
Many thanks, Bill. And you have introduced me to Ground Environment, for which I am also eternally grateful. I have now received the disc from 2010 (i.e. not the version currently available as a download), which I referred to above, and installed the textures. They are easily the best I have ever seen, as these screenshots may show.
Standard FS9 landclass near Tripoli, Libya. These desert textures are in my opinion more convincing than those of Silver Wings:
Near Olbia,Sardinia. Ultimate Terrain with FSG 2010 and Ground Environment textures. The quality of the FSG 2010 mesh is very obvious here.
The same, further inland. Claims that these textures give an effect something like that of photographic scenery seem fair enough.
About to land at Al Von Pingel's new scenery of Torrejon, near Madrid. When looking at the altimeter bear in mind that this air base is at an altitude of almost 2000 ft
Kurt, I have sent you a private message, Ken
Last Edit: Aug 15, 2021 11:45:57 GMT -5 by connieguy
Thanks Ken. GE needs some inputs to get the best from it but it's worth it.
By the way folks, FSG2010 seems to have the highest LOD's anyway so best for both low and slow or airways. Also looks like you get identical mesh quality in both FS9 and FSX but the latter might always look better because of higher terrain texture resolution.
There is some useful information about FSG and terrain mesh in general in this publication,