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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2008 21:00:31 GMT -5
OK, so I've got that gorgeous L-1649A, but how about the L-1049G?
I dug up a copy of Mike Stone's sconnie.zip, but it's utterly stock, and I'm curious if any improvements, FDE or otherwise, were circulated.
Also, does anyone have an opinion as to the merits of the payware Constellation/Super Constellation packages? Thanks in advance!
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Post by Willy on Aug 17, 2008 21:43:53 GMT -5
Mike Stone's 1049 is known to have a bit of a hot airfile. Look for the VNConnie20 file. It has a much better airfile and probably the best panel set up for a Super Connie that I've found.
Willy
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Post by johnhinson on Aug 17, 2008 22:12:43 GMT -5
The payware L749 package is not the best purchase, in my opinion. You can get it for a free trial if you want. It's FDEs cause it to perform more like a jet than a propeller-driven plane and of the four liveries provided, three at least are totally imaginary (I'm not sure about the military one). A few repaints are available but they are not of outstanding quality.
For the time being, I use the FSDezigns L049 as a L749 (there are some repaints of it available for the 749) although a proper freeware 749 was "in the pipeline" a couple of years ago.
For the L1049, have you tried the Dave McQueen on on Tom's site? Although a FS2002 model, it flies nicely in FS2004 with the upgraded flight model (as does Mike Stone's) and there are a range of repaints available at places like AVSIM or Flightsim.com.
John
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2008 22:56:41 GMT -5
To be honest, I hadn't tried the Dave McQueen FS02 model. I'll have to give it a look---the Stone model plus VNCON20 and the Air France livery are awfully attractive at the moment.
I'm hoping that once the Starliner is hammered out, Mr. Jahn et al will turn their attentions to radar-equipped Gs with and without tip tanks.
If I had to put what I'm after into words, here goes: -A radar-equipped L-649/749, -A radar-equipped L-1049G with and without tip tanks, -USN/USAF transports, AWACS and ELINT platforms
I think I've found a reasonably modern version of that MATS 749 that's running around (or was) here in America, made by Rey Lopez et al. That'll probably fill the need for that type, but one never knows.
As for Gs, well, that's underway, but the VNCON team didn't ever work on an overhaul of the tankless Gs, did they?
The AlphaSim EC-121s look very attractive; that's the first Constellations I ever saw, and I'm leaning towards them. I'll have to evaluate them against the Stone freeware, though.
Arrgh. I appreciate all the responses that've come in; they're helping sort through a variety of data that seems like an otherwise incomprehensible flood.
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Post by ozbeowulf on Aug 17, 2008 23:24:40 GMT -5
Hi, Chris...
Obviously, anyone should go for whatever floats their boat, but be aware that Mike Stone aircraft often have somewhat unusual flight dynamics.
Cheers,
Glenn
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Post by johnhinson on Aug 18, 2008 5:01:35 GMT -5
Hi, Chris... Obviously, anyone should go for whatever floats their boat, but be aware that Mike Stone aircraft often have somewhat unusual flight dynamics. Cheers, Glenn True, but the FDEs on Tom's pages can easily be applied to them, with only a few small changes necessary, so both models can fly exactly the same. (All you have to do is copy the Contact Points, Views and Lights sections across from the original model in the aircraft.cfg and overwrite those in the modified FDEs.) John
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Post by eddiejez on Aug 18, 2008 10:09:25 GMT -5
Hi
the mike stone connie with vnconnie panel the flight dynamics update in my oppinion is better than the alphasim connie having purchased the alphasim one ,
rgds Edd
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2008 20:30:07 GMT -5
While we're at it, what's the received opinion regarding the SCFA payware package? It might be a good option, but I'm not sure.
Also, is there any chance of adapting the Cal Classic FDE to a Connie without tip tanks, and an EC-121?
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Post by volkerboehme on Aug 28, 2008 0:07:05 GMT -5
Hi,
changing the FDE for a version without tip tanks should be easy - just remove the tan entries from the config file. I'm not sure whether the .air file would contain these data as well, if it does, it should be removed as well.
The EC-121 should be a bit more dificult - most were powered by 3'400 hp engines like the Starliner - the engine data could be used from that airplane. The EC-121 also had a much higher empty weight (relatgively easy to change) and more drag due to the radomes (more difficult to get it right exactly, I'd guess). Some also had an extra tank in the rear cargo compartment.
Best regards, Volker
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2008 0:09:28 GMT -5
Hmm, this is useful stuff. I'll have to try and figure these things out.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Aug 28, 2008 9:36:08 GMT -5
Hi, As Volker says, the only thing that has to be changed for a tip tankless Super Connie is to remove those tank entries from the cfg file (Fuel section). You will also probably have to move the location of the nav lights too, in the Lights section, if you actually have a visual model without tip tanks. And of course I would suggest using the flight dynamics update available on my Super Connie page... Hope this helps,
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2008 18:15:28 GMT -5
Tom & Volker:
Thanks for the input! I've got some vacation time coming up, so I'll put this to the test and see what happens. I think someone managed to hack the tanks off of a Super G or something, if I see the preview pics right.
Will advise.
EDIT: ea_1049g.zip at flightsim has images of a tankless G, and the freeware Breitling Super G has no tanks, either. Could they be removed by way of alpha channels? Apparently, it's all texture based. (!)
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Aug 28, 2008 18:32:17 GMT -5
Hi, You can do that if they don't code those tanks for reflections instead (you can have transparency or reflections, but not both). If you make the alpha channel of that area of the texture black, it will become transparent. That's how we do that lettering on top of airport roofs with just the letters sticking up above the roof. The area of the polygon surrounding the letters has a black alpha channel. We created the LAX theme restaurant "under construction" in 1959 by the same technique (black alpha channel on the default textures), as well as the Landmark Hotel in Las Vegas in 1959 (open steel girders). Hope this helps,
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2008 18:38:21 GMT -5
It does help, I think. I'll have to give these textures a go and see what happens; I'm predicting disaster, personally.
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Post by emfrat on Aug 28, 2008 22:02:03 GMT -5
Chris - I have the Breitling Connie (from Flightsim), which uses Mike Stone's model. I have Willy McCoy's Pegasus repaint applied to it, with tank_l.bmp and tank_r.bmp renamed to *.bmx . Looks good to me. Must admit, it is so long since I set this up that I can't remember if I applied the FDE update or not. It does have the vnconnie panel. Screenie to follow. Cheers MikeW
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