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Post by sunny9850 on Jan 13, 2010 17:13:10 GMT -5
The advice not to lubricate is directly from the manufacturers. Especially Saitek warned users against that approach when the early Yokes were found to be a little too stiff.
I have however done exactly the same with the CH-Yoke I had used before the Saitek and never had any trouble because of it.
In the case of the Saitek however the manufacturer did discover that the tolerances were indeed too tight between the metal yoke shaft and the interior bushing......lubricating that might make it a little better ..... but it is not a fix.
Stefan
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Post by dc6tryer on Jan 13, 2010 17:19:19 GMT -5
Hi, pung, that was a good stick and I still have it, but the panic it would cause to the crew and pax when it went awol was just too much The reciever was always just in front of it, but I think it had a time limit set in it and it tried to save the batteries or something...perhaps each one has a slightly different timer! Andy.
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Post by pung on Jan 13, 2010 21:38:24 GMT -5
I just flew a commuter from KPHl to KDCA with my 2.4. As usual it flew predictably. I have noticed on a lot of planes, if it get my trim adjusted well, that I don't need to use AP. If my 2.4 goes to sleep it just maintains whatever course & altitude that I am on. I have contacted Logitech to see if there is a way to change sleep setting, but if not I still think that for me, it is the best one out there. You could be correct that your timer somewhat different than mine, and I did notice that the only major complaint from customers, was the built-in sleep activation. I know that that is the only beef that I have ever had.
Paul
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Post by pung on Jan 14, 2010 18:52:42 GMT -5
I just received an email from Logitech. The sad news is that they say that there is no way to alter the sleep mode feature. I would be curious what activates the sleep mode, it has to be programed somehow. I will still stay with it, because for me it has the best add-on for the money that I have bought.
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Post by dc6tryer on Jan 15, 2010 1:23:47 GMT -5
Hi,
Paul, I'm right behind you on this with the Logitech, but as I know nothing about computers I'll just watch ;D
Andy.
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Post by Randy_Cain on Jan 16, 2010 1:58:46 GMT -5
Hi,
Pay attention to what Emfrat said! ....dry AND non-conductive lubricant! I use a spray can of powered teflon-based lube myself (...using very short bursts and in specific places) , but I'd be open to other suggestions.
I have the CH Eclipse yoke now (used to be the basic one) and CH pedals. I have yet to find a use for many of the new buttons that were added, but I LOVE the fact that they put elevator trim and rudder trim their own wheels on the face of the yoke. That by itself was worth the additional cost! ;D
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Post by emfrat on Jan 16, 2010 3:23:52 GMT -5
Cheers Randy - I didn't know you could get a powdered teflon-type thing. You could probably even use baby powder - talc has lubricating properties. Graphite is actually a very good conductor; I remember using it on third-rail model railways, and it was also used on the stud-contact ones, to reduce friction and improve current collection. Sad to say, when we upgraded to a two-rail system and tried the same trick, we got an excellent demo of its lubricating properties What I did with the yoke was, pull it back to full up elevator and apply some to the shaft near the main body of the yoke. Then I moved it to full down elevatorand gave it another squirt, before working the yoke back and forth to spread the graphite. ATB MikeW
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Post by capflyer on Jan 16, 2010 10:56:14 GMT -5
With the way most of these units are setup, graphite would be fine even though they are typically conductive.
When I sent my CH in after my USB hub fried the ID chips on all of the things attached during my move, they fixed the unit (for a very nice price) and even refurb'd and re-adjusted everything to "like new" condition. It was actually kinda annoying because I'd finally gotten the throttles to my liking for friction, but it also fixed some of the not so nice "flickering" of the data going out due to it being too loose and wobbling on the pot.
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Post by coenraad on Jan 18, 2010 3:33:33 GMT -5
I still use my Saitek X45 Hotas system. I used it intitaly when flying Lo-Mac. And the IL-2 series, but it works nicely in FSX. I might get a yoke later, if the X45 eventualy breaks down, but it might as well be a X52, as i really love my X45 and all het buttons
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2010 2:57:37 GMT -5
CH Products Yoke. Saitek rudder pedals. Goflight GF-TQ6 throttle quadrant. Yoke - It's just a standard run of the mill CH Products yoke. It does that I want it to do, though a couple screws are coming loose on the left "horn" of the yoke itself. I have had it for about 5 years and it has held up pretty good. The throttle position is horrible though. When flying an approach with the left hand on the yoke and the right on the throttles, my right arm would get in the way when making corrections on the localizer. Saitek Pedals - I really liked how they looked. I was really disappointed within 30 seconds of starting my first flight. I got the deaded "jammed pedal." I ended up having to open them up and putting the pedal back on its track. Since then they ahve worked fine, but I am always extra careful when using them. I think Saitek could have made the linkage inside the pedals a bit beefier, considering the forces they would experience from someones legs. GoFlight GF-TQ6 throttle: Its wonderful! What else can I say? Its Solid (all metal construction), and it can be configured any way you like. It comes with different levers for jets, and props which include pure jet throttles, prop levers and mixture controls. Separate thrust reverser handles are a nice touch, as well as the separate spoiler and flap handles. The only drawback is that it was hellishly expensive.
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Post by doylebob on Feb 4, 2010 19:10:59 GMT -5
Hi,
I'd like to thank everyone for their comments. I ended up purchasing the CH Eclipse Yoke. I'm using it stand alone (ie. no pedals and no separate throttles). I've had it for a little more than a week now. I'm pretty happy with it. I find a couple of things that are slightly negative but it performs well and overall I'm happy with the purchase. I would recommend it to others who are considering buying a yoke.
Again, thanks for the help
Bob
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Post by emfrat on Feb 5, 2010 4:48:03 GMT -5
Cheers, Bob - I feel obliged to warn you this is just the start of a slippery downhill slope Next thing you'll be like me, wanting TWO Throttle Quadrants, to provide three levers per engine... if the RW job which makes the 'Toys-for-Granpa Fund so healthy would just provide enough free time to spend some of it, who knows what might happen ATB MikeW
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Post by Connie Flyer on Feb 5, 2010 12:57:48 GMT -5
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