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Post by Defender on Oct 6, 2013 7:50:18 GMT -5
Hi Owen,
This is great news as it's my local airport. You and I had some exchanges on CBFS a while back and the scenery progress images you posted looked terrific.
As regards 1970, you'll find an accurate airfield layout for the newly constructed late 60's layout on the old-maps.co.uk website, both 1:2500 and 1:10000. The Flight Global archive has a 1967 article and aerial detailing all the new airport facilities and improvements. If you send me a PM with your email I can let you have all the maps and photos I've already assembled.
And thanks Tom for adding the chart. I'm a little surprised that the chart shows the grass runway 02/20 running all the way across the main paved runway. How do you keep the grass and ashphalt exactly level at the crossing point? Certainly there was originally a grass/part paved runway in that position but seemingly that was before the lengthened main runway was opened. There's an early 50's (?) aerial on the web showing just three grass strips all on the north side of the main runway.
Best regards
Bill
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Post by owenparker on Oct 6, 2013 14:48:40 GMT -5
hello . the scenery is just about done .I have been side tracked quite alot lately. Painting too much and work ,but i should get it done .I would like to do an early 70s version . and also a Cramlington aerodrome in the 1920s . yes I live there .and even a Sunderland airport in the future . just so much to do . thanks for all the help . www.owenparkerart.moonfruit.com/ |
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Post by owenparker on Oct 6, 2013 15:19:35 GMT -5
Work on the Woolsington scenery for FS2004, retro 1960s  |
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Post by infiniti on Jun 7, 2014 10:50:25 GMT -5
Looking for some airport charts or layout images for 1950s- 1963 Warsaw-Okecie EPWA. WIG and Soviet maps that I have found are all post 1970 and indicate the new terminal, which is not much help for 60s scenery as the layout changed significantly. I'm shocked the largest airport in Poland does not have better historical documentation, unless I'm just not finding it. Yes I do speak Polish and have searched in both langauges.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Post by Kristopher Crook, RAI on Jun 23, 2014 14:29:38 GMT -5
Just a heads-up, I spoke a while back with Jeppesen-Sanderson about putting their out-dated charts online. Their representative stated it was okay, as long as "Not For Real-World Navigation" appears on the chart - she suggested writing it in red on the top of the chart. This is what I'm doing for the ones I'm preparing the ones I'm working on. While she said it's highly doubtful anyone would actually use an old chart for that, they do have a liability concern over the replication of them without a clear disclaimer that they are not for that use. Just FYI
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Post by Kristopher Crook, RAI on Jun 23, 2014 14:37:02 GMT -5
I do have Amon Carter (Greater Southwest) from 1973. The only thing really different about those versus earlier ones is that the Fort Worth Radio Range that appears on my 1950's Sectional has been decomissioned and that runway 17/35 is longer. When I did my FS98 scenery, I assumed - based on the heavy use of northbound runways for ILS in the region, that 35 had one. It didn't. The only ILS was 13...
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Post by emfrat on Jun 25, 2014 5:42:42 GMT -5
Good to see you around again, Kris. The problem with the old charts, of course, is magnetic variation. Bearings on a 1950s chart will have changed quite a bit in the last 60 years, and what was Rwy13 then could easily be Rwy12 or Rwy15 by now, depending on just where you are on Planet Earth.
ATB
MikeW
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Post by Wolfgang on Jul 31, 2015 8:41:54 GMT -5
Hi, found this on Ebay: linkMaybe of interest to some Cheers Wolfgang |
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jul 31, 2015 10:05:47 GMT -5
I have bought several of these from ebay. We use them all the time for scenery projects. The diagrams give you the airport layout and lighting, the approach charts give you the valid approaches (and larger diagrams too), and the radio section tells you whether the airport had a tower, ILS, VOR, NDB, LOM, and their frequencies. Quite handy. Finding them for the right years and area coverage can be tricky, though.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jul 31, 2015 11:09:56 GMT -5
Hi,
yes these charts could be very helpful, but those are only for the USA.
The time frame is right.......59,60,62
Cheers
Wolfgang
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jul 31, 2015 11:20:52 GMT -5
I did buy one that included northwest Europe, but I've only seen that one example.
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Post by jwh on Jul 31, 2015 23:04:39 GMT -5
I have this on my watch list and will be bidding on it nearer to the closing date.
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Post by jwh on Aug 10, 2015 4:16:20 GMT -5
Won this lot on Ebay this morning. Hopefully there will be items in there of help to our scenery creators.
John
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Post by jimmyfingers on Aug 16, 2015 20:05:00 GMT -5
Thanks Volker--I had forgotten about the UT library.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 19:45:54 GMT -5
Tom and others given the situation now with Photobucket has any thought been given to moving or being able to access all these older charts and maps etc via another mechanism. I cannot get photobucket links to work anymore due to their paywall approach to things. Same thing has happened over at SimOuthouse and other sites where images etc were originally hosted by users on the Bucket.
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