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Post by Tom/CalClassic on May 9, 2010 14:50:22 GMT -5
Hi, Reeve Aleutian also had a Packet or two. When I saw your second pic I said "Someone built the Flight of the Phoenix?" - and then thought "of course someone built it".
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Post by okami on May 9, 2010 15:53:01 GMT -5
Lol! ;D Anyway, after Daisuke Yamamoto's C-82, here's the modification for his C-119 Boxcar. First of all a word: for my tests I used the Daisuke Yamamoto C-119, improved with the Flight Dynamics upgrade by Heather Sherman, Herb Morse and Brian Gladden. Here are the modifications: [contact_points] point.0=1, -10.04, 0.0, -9.3, 1600.0, 0, 0.60, 60.0, 0.704, 2.5, 0.686, 3.0, 5.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.1=1, -34.89, -16.06, -9.272, 1600.0, 1, 1.35, 0.0, 0.704, 2.5, 0.686, 7.0, 9.0, 7.0, 166.0, 166.0 point.2=1, -34.89, 16.06, -9.272, 1600.0, 2, 1.35, 0.0, 0.704, 2.5, 0.682, 3.0, 5.0, 7.0, 166.0, 166.0 point.3=2, -34.62, -54.74, 3.18, 800.0, 0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 5.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.4=2, -34.62, 54.74, 3.18, 800.0, 0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 6.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.5=2, -86.36, -16.06, 2.81, 800.0, 0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 9.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.6=2, -86.36, 16.06, 2.81, 800.0, 0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 9.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.7=2, 0.03, 0.0, -1.2, 800.0, 0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 4.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.8=2, -6.03, 0.0, -5.2, 800.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.9=2, -12.25, -4.53, -7.25, 800.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.10=2, -12.25, 4.53, -7.25, 800.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.11=2, -30.31, -4.53, -6.65, 800.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.12=2, -30.31, 4.53, -6.65, 800.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0 point.13=2, -48.31, 0.00, -6.22, 800.0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0And here's the result:
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Post by okami on May 9, 2010 20:22:33 GMT -5
Here's a big one: Tim Conrad's C-133B Cargomaster for FS9! Here are the mods: [contact_points] static_pitch = -0.820 static_cg_height = 12.140 max_number_of_points = 13point.0 = 1.000, 57.000, 0.000, -10.900, 2000.000, 0.000, 1.750, 40.000, 0.050, 3.000, 0.850, 5.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.1 = 1.000, -1.500, -7.500, -12.200, 2500.000, 1.000, 2.500, 0.000, 0.400, 2.500, 0.800, 5.000, 5.000, 2.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.2 = 1.000, -1.500, -10.000, -12.200, 2500.000, 1.000, 2.500, 0.000, 0.400, 2.500, 0.800, 5.000, 5.000, 2.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.3 = 1.000, -1.500, 7.500, -12.200, 2500.000, 2.000, 2.500, 0.000, 0.400, 2.500, 0.800, 5.000, 5.000, 3.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.4 = 1.000, -1.500, 10.000, -12.200, 2500.000, 2.000, 2.500, 0.000, 0.400, 2.500, 0.800, 5.000, 5.000, 3.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.5 = 2.000, -3.233, -85.262, 12.615, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.6 = 2.000, -3.076, 85.261, 12.580, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.7 = 2.000, -31.489, 0.000, -9.276, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.8 = 2.000, 63.844, 0.000, -4.212, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.9 = 2.000, 50.000, 0.000, -10.900, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.10 = 2.000, -1.500, 9.500, -10.900, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.11 = 2.000, -1.500, -9.000, -10.900, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.12 = 2.000, -15.500, 0.000, -9.300, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000gear_system_type=0 And here's the result: She's huge! o.o
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Post by okami on May 10, 2010 3:56:19 GMT -5
Small notice inbetween: I've still got a fair share of aircraft to do (I'm actually surprised there are so many!). These include the Il-18, Tu-114, and much of the jets (all of the HJG jetliners, David Maltby's classic British jets, and the Caravelle and Tupolevs), as well as some smaller props - I'm sure many along you would also appreciate scrape points for the Beech 18 or the Cessna Bobcat. :3 One thing I'm wondering about is whether to do contact points for Mike Stone's models of the Electra, Super Constellation, Bristol Britannia and other 'classic' models. I'm not sure how many among you still fly them, with the newer models around (I'm trying to avoid the "b"-word <.< ), so just give me a shout if you think I should do those as well...
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Post by ashaman on May 10, 2010 9:05:52 GMT -5
One thing I'm wondering about is whether to do contact points for Mike Stone's models of the Electra, Super Constellation, Bristol Britannia and other 'classic' models. I'm not sure how many among you still fly them, with the newer models around (I'm trying to avoid the "b"-word <.< ), so just give me a shout if you think I should do those as well... If you have time to spare, after maybe the newest and actually most used planes that require priority, I would be grateful if you did.
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Post by okami on May 10, 2010 11:53:58 GMT -5
Here's one that's a bit in the "grey zone" when it comes to classics: the Nord 262A Frégate. The Nord 262A finds its origins in an earlier design, the Max Holte MH.250 which first flew in May 1959. When Nord Aviation took over Max Holte, they redesigned the aircraft, giving it a rounded, pressurised fuselage rather than the angular, unpressurised original one. As such, the design first flew in December 1962. Designed as a "Dakota replacement", the Nord 262A had a common flaw with most such "replacements": it matched the Dakota's payload, but didn't exceed it. Arriving on a market which was looking for something larger than the Dakota, the Frégate was judged as too small and too narrow. Any further chances of success were scuppered by initial engine troubles, which for a time even grounded the type, and certainly didn't contribute to its reputation. As a result, its sales were only modest at best, with just 110 built. However, lessons learnt from it later led to the succesful ATR 42 and 72 series. Here are the modifications: point.0=1, 18.70, 0.000, -10.650, 2600, 0.000, 0.288, 28.00, 0.215, 3.700, 0.900, 5.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.1=1, -4.75, -5.020, -10.350, 2600, 1.000, 0.568, 0.000, 0.520, 0.700, 0.900, 7.000, 8.000, 2.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.2=1, -4.75, 5.020, -10.350, 2600, 2.000, 0.568, 0.000, 0.520, 0.700, 0.900, 8.000, 9.000, 3.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.3=2.000, 0.000, -33.417, 5.000, 2600.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.4=2.000, 0.000, 33.417, 5.000, 2600.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.5=2.000, -34.750, 0.000, 1.000, 2600.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.6=2.000, 13.000, 0.000, 1.000, 2600.00, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.7=2.000, 19.00, 0.000, -9.000, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.8=2.000, 15.00, 0.000, -9.100, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.9=2.000, -7.75, -5.020, -9.500, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.10=2.000, -7.75, 5.020, -9.500, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.11=2.000, -12.70, 0.000, -8.450, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000static_pitch= 1.0 static_cg_height= 10.6 And here is the result:
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Post by ashaman on May 10, 2010 12:47:07 GMT -5
May I ask if you have the Breda Zappata BZ308 ( breda308.zip on Flightsim.com) on the list of the planes to give new contact points to? I'm wondering because I have a half a mind to, as soon I'll have a little time, adapt to it the FD of the L-749 ( leaving of the original only the props specs), seen that the out of the box FD of this plane are quite bad, ( on a preliminary inspection, a critical altitude of 25000 was the first and last thing I noticed, before putting the plane among my own very personal "to tinker with" list). Having you add your magic touch would be just nice.
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Post by okami on May 10, 2010 13:19:06 GMT -5
I have the Breda on my list - in fact, I've already did an attempt or two at it. Right now I'm having some problems with it, as it keeps sinking through its nacelles. I think I'm quite close to cracking it, though.
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The problem, that is, not the plane, hopefully... <.<
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Post by okami on May 10, 2010 17:46:34 GMT -5
Bit of a frustrating day today. I've worked on the Dewoitine D.338, only to find none of the default contact points are right, and that changing any of them compromises the stability of the aircraft; also worked a bit on the Fiat G-12s, only to find each and every variant will have to have their scrape points done separately as those from one version are not compatible on the other one! >.< Finally I did find one I could do, so here it is. It another one of Peter Larkham's beautiful missed opportunities: the Cunliffe-Owen Concordia. The Concordia was another British design for a medium-range feederliner. It's main problem was, that it found itself in direct competition with the de Havilland Dove. Though not a bad aircraft in itself, it failed to attract sales: when it was cancelled, six months after its first flight, only 4 had been sold. The two prototypes and the first production batch of six (none of which was completed at the time) were scrapped, and Cunliffe-Owen folded soon after. Here are the modifications: static_pitch = 0.642 static_cg_height= 6.702 gear_system_type=0 //0=electrical 1=hydraulic 2=pneumatic 3=manual 4= none max_number_of_points=13point.0= 1.000, 14.100, 0.000, -6.980, 1600.000, 0.000, 0.965, 30.000, 0.120, 2.500, 0.750, 4.000, 4.000, 0.000, 152.000, 180.000 point.1= 1.000, -1.112, -7.800, -6.980, 1600.000, 1.000, 1.455, 0.000, 0.290, 2.500, 0.570, 4.300, 4.300, 2.000, 152.000, 200.000 point.2= 1.000, -1.112, 7.800, -6.980, 1600.000, 2.000, 1.455, 0.000, 0.290, 2.500, 0.570, 4.200, 4.100, 3.000, 152.000, 200.000 point.3= 2.000, -29.000, -0.009, 1.800, 1800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.4= 2.000, 15.800, 0.000, 0.000, 1800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.5= 2.000, -0.400, -28.200, 1.800, 1800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.6= 2.000, -0.400, 28.200, 1.800, 1800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.7= 2.000, 14.100, 0.000, -3.500, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.8= 2.000, 5.112, -7.800, -3.540, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.9= 2.000, 5.112, 7.800, -3.540, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.10= 2.000, -1.112, -7.800, -3.490, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.11= 2.000, -1.112, 7.800, -3.490, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.12= 2.000, -14.100, 0.000, -3.400, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000And here's the result:
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Post by okami on May 10, 2010 18:46:03 GMT -5
From a British vision of what could have been to a French one: J.R. Lucariny's Dewoitine/SNCASE D.700-T2. Roughly the equivalent of the Concordia, the D.700 never progressed beyond the initial studies. The D.700 was designed to a Spanish specification for such an aircraft. Dewoitine designed his aircraft as a scaled-down version of the DC-3, with a cruise speed of 250-260 kmh and a commercial payload of 1200 kg over a range of 1200 km, or one of 1800 kg over a range of 300 km. However, Spanish authorities instead chose CASA's C-201 Alcotan - which looked like a scaled-down DC-3 that could carry a payload of about 1600 kg at a cruise speed of 250-260 kmh over a range of 1000 km...! - , and C-202 Halcon, essentially an enlarged version with tricycle gear and payload of 14 passengers. As a postscript: both CASA's Alcotan and Halcon aircraft were a flop. Only 11 Alcotan were completed, with 96 incomplete airframes - ready except for their engines - being scrapped; of the Halcon, only 20 were ever completed. Neither type ever flew feederliner services, instead seeing service as transports with the Spanish air force... Here are the modifications for the D.700. These modifications correct the tailwheel - making it fixed instead of retractable - and the nose scrape point, and add the belly scrape points as well. [contact_points] //point.0=1, -38.417, 0.000, -0.600, 1574.803, 0, 0.666, 57.66, 0.195, 2.5, 0.916, 33, 33, 0, 0, 0 point.0= 1.000, -26.050, 0.000, -0.200, 2174.803, 0.000, 0.666, 60.660, 0.195, 3.500, 0.916, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000point.1= 1.000, 3.417, -9.917, -7.300, 1574.803, 1.000, 0.666, 0.000, 0.366, 2.500, 0.773, 7.000, 7.000, 2.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.2= 1.000, 3.417, 9.917, -7.300, 1574.803, 2.000, 0.666, 0.000, 0.366, 2.500, 0.773, 5.000, 5.000, 3.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.3= 2.000, -8.500, -47.500, 0.833, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.4= 2.000, -8.500, 47.500, 0.833, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.5= 2.000, -27.333, 0.000, 0.750, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.6= 2.000, 18.233, 0.000, 1.550, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000point.7= 2.000, 7.417, -9.917, -3.050, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.8= 2.000, 7.417, 9.917, -3.050, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.9= 2.000, 1.217, -9.917, -3.450, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.10= 2.000, 1.217, 9.917, -3.450, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000And here's the result. First of all, the belly landing: And, with a corrected nose scrape point, the nose stand:
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Post by okami on May 11, 2010 16:51:28 GMT -5
Sorry everybody, I haven't had much time today. I'm going to try and do one or two, but I doubt I'll manage more. Anyway, here are the modifications for Milton Shupe's Beech 18. I wasn't able to test one thing, namely the nose scrape point, because I did not manage to get it to rest on its nose with the gear out. If anybody succeeds in this, could they please take a screenshot of it and post it? [contact_points] max_number_of_points = 12//point.0 = 1, -19.904, 0.000, -0.637, 2200, 0, 0.33, 45, 0.51, 2.0, 0.50, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0//Replace contact_point.0 below with the one above if you want a steerable tailwheel. You may comment out the one below with //, and activate the one above by removing the // point.0 = 1, -19.904, 0.000, -0.637, 2200, 0, 0.33, 180, 0.51, 2.0, 0.50, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0point.1 = 1, 2.890, -6.417, -5.987, 2200, 1, 0.8, 0, 1.15, 1.1, 0.50, 5, 5, 2, 139, 175.2 point.2 = 1, 2.890, 6.417, -5.987, 2200, 2, 0.8, 0, 1.15, 1.1, 0.50, 5, 5, 3, 139, 175.2 point.3 = 2, 8, 0, -2.5, 1000, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4point.4 = 2, -1, 0, -1.4, 3000, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4 point.5 = 2, 0,-23.495, 0.42, 1200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 5 point.6 = 2, 0, 23.495, 0.42, 1200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 6 point.7 = 2, -21.904, 0, 3, 1200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 9 point.8 = 2, -16.6, 0, 6.4, 1200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 9 point.9 = 2, 8.2, 0, 1, 1200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4 point.10 = 2, 2.890, -6.417, -3.287, 800, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 point.11 = 2, 2.890, 6.417, -3.287, 800, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0static_pitch = 12.2 static_cg_height = 4.18 gear_system_type = 1 tailwheel_lock = 1 And here is the result:
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Post by okami on May 11, 2010 17:50:48 GMT -5
Here's another light aircraft: David Garwood's Avro Anson Mk.I Initially conceived as a light commercial aircraft for Imperial Airways, the Avro Anson I entered service with the RAF Coastal Command in the mid-thirties as a patrol aircraft. At the beginning of the war it was replaced in this role by the Lockheed Hudson, however, the Anson was then used as a twin-engined pilot trainer, but also as a bomber, navigator, wireless and gunner trainer; light transport; and liaison aircraft. Especially in the role of trainer and light transport it would serve for over three decades with the RAF, only being withdrawn from service in 1968. Post-War, many surplus military Ansons got onto the civilian market. They were used as executive transports, light transport aircraft, trainer or light passenger aircraft. Dave Garwood's Anson came with belly land scrape points, unfortunately they were situated incorrectly, causing the aircraft's nacelles to sink half into the runway. Here are the modifications: [contact_points] max_number_of_points = 11 point.0 = 1.000, -26.520, 0.000, -1.800, 2165.354, 0.000, 0.237, 60.000, 0.150, 2.500, 0.700, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.1 = 1.000, 1.720, -6.820, -5.600, 2165.354, 1.000, 1.340, 0.000, 0.170, 2.500, 0.700, 6.000, 8.000, 2.000, 176.000, 176.000 point.2 = 1.000, 1.720, 6.820, -5.600, 2165.354, 2.000, 1.340, 0.000, 0.170, 2.500, 0.700, 7.000, 10.000, 3.000, 176.000, 176.000 point.3 = 2.000, 10.940, 0.000, -0.640, 2165.354, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.4 = 2.000, -30.260, 0.000, -0.160, 2165.354, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.5 = 2.000, -1.490, 27.700, 0.710, 2165.354, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.6 = 2.000, -1.490, -27.700, 0.710, 2165.354, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.7 = 2.000, 3.560, 6.870, -4.050, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 7.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.8 = 2.000, 3.560, -6.870, -4.050, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 8.000, 0.000, 0.000point.9 = , , , , , , , , , , , , , point.10 = , , , , , , , , , , , , , And here's the result:
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Post by okami on May 11, 2010 18:47:12 GMT -5
And here's another 'little one', namely the Alphasim Cessna T-50 Bobcat. Here are the modifications: [contact_points] static_pitch = 11.05 static_cg_height = 4.54 tailwheel_lock = 0 gear_system_type = 0 max_number_of_points = 11 point.0 = 1.000, -23.690, 0.000, -0.300, 1400.000, 0.000, 0.450, 90.000, 0.200, 1.500, 0.800, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000point.1 = 1.000, 1.800, -6.300, -5.200, 1800.000, 1.000, 1.100, 0.000, 0.350, 2.500, 0.700, 5.000, 7.000, 2.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.2 = 1.000, 1.800, 6.300, -5.200, 1800.000, 2.000, 1.100, 0.000, 0.350, 2.500, 0.700, 7.000, 5.000, 3.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.3 = 2.000, -2.750, -20.768, 2.339, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.4 = 2.000, -2.750, 20.853, 2.416, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.5 = 2.000, -24.849, 0.000, 1.976, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.6 = 2.000, 1.800, -6.305, -3.520, 774.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.7 = 2.000, 1.800, 6.305, -3.520, 774.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.8 = 2.000, -22.484, 0.000, 7.907, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000 point.9 = 2.000, 6.439, 0.000, -1.765, 800.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000point.10 = 2.000, -8.680, 0.000, -0.686, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000 Which results in... well, this: The way the default Alphasim Bobcat comes she is noseheavy, resulting in her tipping over on bellylanding. One way to prevent this is to correct a small omission in the .cfg, namely adding the three back-seat passengers. This is done by the following modification in the weights and balances section: [weight_and_balance] // ACM V2.5 max_gross_weight = 5700 empty_weight = 3500 reference_datum_position = 0, 0, 0 empty_weight_CG_position = -0.1, 0, 0 empty_weight_pitch_MOI = 5386 empty_weight_roll_MOI = 3780 empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 7318 empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0 CG_forward_limit = 0.000 CG_aft_limit = 1.000 max_number_of_stations = 5station_load.0 = 180, 0.18, -1.2, 2.37 station_load.1 = 180, 0.18, 1.2, 2.37 station_load.2 = 180, -3.82, -1.6, 2.37 station_load.3 = 180, -3.82, 0.0, 2.37 station_load.4 = 180, -3.82, 1.6, 2.37With three back-seat passengers, the Bobcat belly-lands like this: ... which, if you ask me, is a whole lot more comfortable... :3
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Post by okami on May 12, 2010 15:57:19 GMT -5
Here's one of the big ones: the Ilyushin IL-18. First of all, Edgar Guinart's IL-18: it comes with the right belly land scrape points. So no need to alter anything there. ;D Secondly, Pavel Hvatkin's IL-18. That does need some modifications. Here they are: [contact_points] point.0=1.000, 45.489, 0.000, -8.440, 1181.102, 0.000, 0.618, 55.000, 0.212, 2.500, 1.000, 15.000, 15.000, 0.000, 216.000, 232.000 point.1=1.000, -2.29, -15.445, -9.440, 1574.803, 1.000, 0.618, 0.000, 1.0, 2.500, 0.9, 15.000, 15.000, 2.000, 216.000, 232.000 point.2=1.000, -2.29, 15.445, -9.440, 1574.803, 2.000, 0.618, 0.000, 1.0, 2.500, 0.9, 15.00, 15.00, 3.000, 216.000, 232.000 point.3=2.000, -35.190, 0.000, -3.433, 920.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.4 = 4, -2.29, -15.00, -3.840, 1600, 0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.3, 2.5, 0.8, 0.0, 0.0, 7, 0.0, 0.0 point.5 = 4, -2.29, 15.00, -3.840, 1600, 0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.3, 2.5, 0.8, 0.0, 0.0, 7, 0.0, 0.0 point.6 = 4, 46.10, 0.00, -2.840, 1600, 0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.5, 2.5, 0.7, 0.0, 0.0, 7, 0.0, 0.0 point.7 =2, 0.71, -60.66, 2.660, 920, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0.0, 0.0 point.9 =2, 0.71, 60.66, 2.660, 920, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 6, 0.0, 0.0 point.10 =2, 56.19, 0.00, -3.00, 920, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 9, 0.0, 0.0 point.11 =2, -53.81, 0.00, 0.00, 920, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0.0, 0.0static_pitch=0.000 static_cg_height=9.44 gear_system_type=0 And here's the result:
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Post by okami on May 12, 2010 16:01:32 GMT -5
Oh, and a little something inbetween: here's a screenshot of my very first attempt at Daisuke Yamamoto's C-119. Just to show you things sometimes can go awefully wrong... ... or otherwise it's an attempt at making VTOL landings with C-119s... ;D
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