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Post by paulopp on Aug 8, 2016 4:00:44 GMT -5
The Liberator also went civvie? As far as I recall, there's a C-87 Liberator available, probaby Alphasim. And if you're into flying boats, there are also Jens B. Kristensen's post-war flying boats Hythe, Solent, Sandringham.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 5:30:16 GMT -5
Some PB4Y of Hawkins & Powers Aviation at Greybull, Wy (KGEY) as well as a C-97 in background.
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Post by aerofoto on Aug 8, 2016 8:58:27 GMT -5
It did From 1944 the wartime, covertly operated, QANTAS PBY CATALINA services to Ceylon/Sri Lanka (affectionately termed "The Rare and Secret Order of the Double Sunrise" .... as the sun rose twice during the flight) .... were supplemented by converted BOAC B-24 LIBRATORS (actully LIBRATOR 30´s I think) and which were also operated by QANTAS (G-AGKT and G-AGKU .... along with G-AGTI G-AGTJ which both later became VH-EAI and VH-EAJ respectively) from both Ratmalana Ceylon and RAF Minneriya/Ceylon (the ltter being a refueling stop only) across the Indean ocean to RAAF Learmonth in Westrn Australia .... flying what was then termed "the Kangaroo Service" or "Th Order of the Longest Hop". Athens based HELLENIC AIRLINS .... aka GREEK AIRLINES (operated in association with SCOTTISH AvIATION) .... was formed during 1947. It too briefly flew a single civil converted/refurbished B-24 LIBERATOR (SX-DAA "Maid Of Athens") .... operating twice-weekly services from Glasgow/Prestwick to Athens via London, Paris, and Rome .... and to both Alexandria, and Cairo. The airline later operated DC-3´s but ceased operations during 1951 due to it´s government forced merger into TAE GREK NATIONAL AIRLINES. Another B-24 entered the Bolivia civil register too .... as CB-76, later becoming CP-576, from 1951 .... and which was owned, or traded by, FRI REYES around 1980 .... BUT ....I don´t think they (themselves) ever flew it .... www.warbirdregistry.org/b24registry/b24-4441916.htmlMark C HJG
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Post by paulopp on Aug 8, 2016 12:12:03 GMT -5
@ aviavirt
Nice assembly of "pot-bellied pigs" :-)
@ aerofoto
Interesting info! Do you know if these 'civilised' Liberators kept their original engines? I guess, they didn't need the turbosuperchargers.
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Post by aerofoto on Aug 8, 2016 13:54:11 GMT -5
I don´t think any major technical changes were made .... other than whatever might have necessary in order to promote these aircraft (the B-24´s I mean) being able to be operated into/and out of some of the much warmer environments through which they transited. Having said that though .... some engine modifications might have been made in respect the the few aircraft which were civilianised (fox PAX carrying rather than freight hauling) "after" WW2, but, for civil oprations during the period of WW2 (a whole different type of game), then, once again, not much, if anything, might have changed. They probably would have had to operate at "pretty high" altitudes though .... to maximize range .... expecially on very long crossings of the Indian Ocean to, and from, Australia, in the case of the QANTAS/BOAC operated aircraft during/near the wars-end. "JUST GUESSING/ASSUMPTION" .... on my part Mark C HJG
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Post by chris_c on Aug 8, 2016 15:45:09 GMT -5
You should really try Glenn Duncan's brilliant C-87 Liberator Express. There are two liveries, engine power charts and lots of excellent reading for recreating C-87 operations. And it flies like a pregnant sow, hates ice and crashes if you load it badly. Chris At Flightsim: Glenn Duncan C-87 Liberator Express
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Post by wobbie on Aug 9, 2016 4:07:55 GMT -5
Thanks, I forgot about the C-87.I do have Jens B. Kristensen's collection as well. Sometimes we get all wrapped up in new releses & really forget the gems of years gone by. I'm re-populating my 'new' install of FS2004, exclusively Garry's Ford Tri-Motor Project stuff, with classic planes added in as well.
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