Thanks to Tom's input and a lot more diligent ferreting about I have managed to tease out a lot more information about Reeve over the years. I managed to plug into a discussion by RW pilots who had worked at Reeve and their comments and posts provided a lot more flesh on the bones and helped create a better perspective on how Reeve developed, how its operations went along in time and how it finally succumbed to commercial and financial pressures.
Basically for those interested in recreating the Reeve period:
The odds and sods of aeroplanes, used for charter and other adhoc flying jobs from the beginning gave way to the DC-3/C-47 from about 1948. The DC-3 fleet steadily rose and scheduled airline services were introduced supported by the odds and sods work. The DC-3 lasted as the main heavy workhorse until the mid to late 1970s.
The DC-4 basically replaced the DC-3 and in various guises lasted about the same time.
The DC-6 basically replaced the DC-4 in the late fifties early 60's from until about 1968.
C-46's were also used and lasted until about the early 1980.s.
The Lockheed Electra L-188 replaced the DC-6.
From the mid 80's the YS-11 replaced the pistons and these two aircraft were basically all they operated until about 1992 when the YS-11's were retired.
The B727-100 QC (Combi style freighter) came in about 1993 (?) these were originally to do runs from Anchorage to Russia (Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk) this was contracted charter work not an airline schedule.
Interestingly the L-188 was approved for ops on gravel runways and therefore went into most places that the pistons used to as did the YS-11. Changes ones perspective on what you can really do with the L-188.
The schedule or main routes from Anchorage to the end of the Aleutians lasted a long time and were basically unchanged over this whole period. What used to happen a lot was one day another leg would be added in dependant on demand and other days not. So for example they would go Anchorage to Port Heiden regularly but now and then go to St Pauls and then on to Port Heiden and pick up the route from there. So as I work through the schedule in the C-47 I can add in other stops for a bit of variety. Most legs were about less than an hour only a few were longer in the C-47 faster in the L-188 and YS-11 of course.
They did a lot of charter work all over Alaska with the main aircraft and a lot of other types that came and went as needed. That is why the kept the Sikorsky S-43 so long (amphibian with a good load capacity). Bob Reeve had a flourishing repair and maintenance business as part of Reeve and it continues to this day even though the airline/charter side has long gone. He had a canny knack for picking the right aeroplane to do the job and a good buy secondhand. Crews and staff were tight knit with lots of pilots married to the flight attendants other staff etc and all working together day in day out. They had a pretty impressive safety record given their operating environment (harsh and tough). A real can-do attitude for a long long time, professional and hardworking. It seems Bobs successors were not up to it on some levels and were more interested in other business opportunities not aviation and there is some unhappiness still about as to how the demise finally happened, that of course is another story altogether.
They basically rode the boom in military building and ops in the Aleutians until it fizzled out, the oil field development business, fishing industry and got a lot of traffic from subsidies to remote Alaskan communities which have not gone as well. By the late 1990's this was all on the decline and Reeve went down with it. They also had to compete against Alaskan Airlines as well.
Interestingly they did scheduled services from Cold Bay to Seattle Tacoma the Anchorage in the L-188 and gave a shot at a few innovative runs like that wit the B727 as well but the numbers did not last.
Importantly well for me, From a flight sim perspective, hunting about has produced some really good airport scenery's including the CalClassic work for basically 80% of Alaskan towns they went to and all of the Aleutians, whilst strictly not period correct to the nth degree it is generally unchanged from the 1950's on anyway for most places so they fit fine into the CC periods. A good 10m mesh for Alaska and the Aleutians has lifted the whole sim experience as well. Happy to provide details later for those interested on whats around and where to get it.
I guess I will be out and about in the Reeve world for some time, so much to explore and such a rich history to mine for CC period aeroplanes.
Chasing down Reeve liveries for the various types has been interesting. Anyhow now have the C-46 (JF C-46) and the DC-6B (PMDG) in Reeve colours. A few interesting things. The C-46's were originally in the normal Reeve Blue and White colours but later they reverted to the all aluminium look, this paint by Jan Kees is of the all aluminium. As for the DC-6 it was done originally for X-Plane. With a bit of re-arranging and format changing courtesy of that wonderful program DXT Bitmap, an X-Plane paint converted into FSX.
and of course the old favourite the DC-3/C-47 (Jahn Teams FSX V3):
aharon. I have the Reeve YS-11 liveries, there are two, old and new. They are for the AFG groups NAMC YS-11, i think they are in AVSIM's library, two different downloads. I thought the AFG's YS-11 was very nicely done, with better dart sounds added and there was a missing gauge to be fixed but its fine, nice to fly in the sim like the real one would have been. It is a 2004 portover into FSX.
As for a virtual airline um probably not too hard lot of upkeep, I guess I now have a private virtual airline . Tom and others will tell you that just keeping this site up and running on a day to day basis.
As for the Aleutians and Alaska it is an area that has just sucked me in. Fascinating area, geography, climate etc and probably because it is still the one of the last bastions of old aeroplanes and true bush flying to this day. Never tire of it in the sim always interesting and different.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jun 26, 2021 12:58:09 GMT -5
You'd think I would since I rode them in the 90s from Anchorage to Dillingham (a route that didn't last long). But as I remember they didn't have timetables for giving out to people, at least at the time. And timetableimages doesn't have anything either. This image shows most of the places they flew from (not the "commuter service", which was flown by Penninsula Airways). Their route map was pretty stable over the years.
If you go to the DC3Airways web site, they have Reeve's Electra skeds plus others as well. You have to get into their sub-menu though by clicking ROUTES, then down to ROUTES again, then Database. This brings up a menu on top with FLIGHTS listed. Click that, then ROUTES again and then US & Canada to get to the Reeve flights. (Whew!) If you click Routes, Routes then US & Canada from their main page, nothing happens (at least for me).
There were other routes, but usually only for a few years at a time. According to Wikipedia, they had flights to SEA between 1989 and 1992, using the Electra.
Yeah but I am sure Reeve had many many many Electra, DC-6, DC-4, and DC-3 routes. A good example of the route not mentioned on route map is your real life flight as passenger abroad Reeve Electra for route between PANC and padl