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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 1:47:50 GMT -5
Into India. This is another one of these underdone or overdone sceneries in FSX and the others I suspect. Where you expect lots of small buildings you get none and when you expect none you get modern high rise etc. In the end I compromise on the autogen deletion overlay etc to come to a reasonable compromise. All this central India lakes and rivers is not well done in FSX and not completely accurate unlike the coastlines so without redoing the whole country this is as good as it gets I think, still not bad. This is Lake Rajsamand about 60 km from Udaipur. The flying boats used to land here and they had a met station, passenger lounge and house for staff plus fuel stores etc. You were boated into shore had a cup of tea or whatever and then on a bus to the nearest railway station which was about 2 km away, then the train to Udaipur where you got to spend the night in one of those grand maharajah palaces converted into hotels. Lot of inter airport transfers in those days. The dam itself is a remarkable centuries old structure with stepped fronts and all sorts of stuff nearby. Spot the elephants when you get to use this one. And this next stop is Gwailor another dam-man made lake in central India:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 1:51:21 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 1:54:47 GMT -5
Then from Burma into Thailand two stops in this country Koh Samui and Bangkok. Why Koh Samui down in the Gulf of Thailand I cannot work out it is not a major developed area and to this day is still basically a bit of a tourist resort area but not overly huge. Koh Samui And Bangkok tried to get an old city centre look but again so much autogen highrise it is difficult but this is ok to my eye.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 1:58:34 GMT -5
It is a wonderful journey even it is is a little slow and just about ready to start from London and run all the way to Australia with real time and real time weather via Rex Skyforce. See how it all looks and then a tidy up and time to release a few in blocks for those capable of using this scenery.
Slight detour with all of them as well as I am experimenting with ADE to see if we can get a flare path on the water that is long enough and looks ok as I have discovered that from about 1938 right up until the 1960's that night operations were conducted extensively in the flying boats and they put out a flare path with floating kerosene flare paths so night take offs and landings could be and were regularly conducted.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 23:59:52 GMT -5
Brisbane Queensland - the Flying Boat Jetty and transfer area at Pinkenbah Redland Bay Queensland. This scenery has been adjusted to fit in with Aaron Seymour's latest and wonderful scenery for Eagle Farm and Perth (1960's and 1970s).
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Post by jwh on Mar 2, 2019 0:34:32 GMT -5
Hi Mike When you say Pinkerton do you mean Pinkenba which is actually on Airport side of the river and used as a terminal before the War. Redland Bay is quite a distance south from the River. Your pics are a really nice rendition of the area in the late 40s especially with the old Queenslanders (houses) on the bank.
Have you seen David Jones nice book "Wings on the River" published in 2007? There are some good pics in there.
John
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 5:54:14 GMT -5
Correct JWH Correct Pikenbah it is not sure while I called it Pinkerton. No I have not read Jones book, I will have to chase it up. I pulled this together with the pictures I could find which were not all that many so some of it is not strictly accurate. It is an approach I have taken with all the scenery so far, where I could I have tried hard to make it as accurate as one can but as I am not using sketch up or making models of buildings and Instant Scenery as my main tool because it actually lends itself really well to this sort of scenery creation where you are not doing all the land areas but merely adding in buildings etc. I have had to borrow objects extensively wide and far but I think the outcome is quite respectable. May not suit the purists I know. But after all I am flying in the sim, not walking the streets.
The other bug bear I have had is actually ORBX which I use extensively in my setup especially for Australia and the Pacific and NZ. They have an infuriating lock out which prevents you redoing the ground polys such as to exclude stuff or recast a shore line because if there is one little ORBX scenery object (which you cannot delete) the overlay or poly change will not work (FS Developer have commented on this issue as well). You cannot get to them because ORBX actually replaces all the default area files from the MS scenery with its own version, which is why when you install their scenery they suggest you back up all the stock world scenery folders first. Hence the tanker in this scenery (a bit modern really) which I had to leave on the river because I cannot get rid of it. Though I did discover by chance you can overlay one of their objects with another and that will hold but not the ground textures on a large scale.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 1:40:27 GMT -5
Indonesia this Klabat Bay first stop after Singapore for the Imperial Flying Boats. Finally got around to finishing off the Trans Oceanic Airways Solent 3 Paint. This is Star of Papua, this bird is still in existence somewheres. Landing run in the C Class Shutdown and awaiting the passenger launch.
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Post by Erik on Mar 3, 2019 17:06:20 GMT -5
Mike, your words "It is a wonderful journey" are exactly what I was thinking, even just following your topic like a National Geographic documentary. Thanks for all the info and accompanying images, they alone are already a real joy to digest.
Erik
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 2:49:56 GMT -5
Thanks Eric, appreciated. When I started this I was merely frustrated by the lack of information and the general neglect of the flying boat era which lasted nearly 30 years but bit by bit you start to get a little more here and there. I guess because there have been no real flying boats done of recent times and all of them are really 2004 models and port overs into FSX. Because I am firmly welded to the Cal Classic era I know it has taken this period away from the original aims of California and Propliners but Tom and others have gradually constructed a whole new world in the simulator. I have just about done the England Australia routes only a couple actually left to think about and it was been an amazing journey for me as well just finding out about this era alone was fascinating. I still will head across the Pacific with Pan Am and still have Africa to do yet. Then there is the period after WW2 when both the US and the UK still used flying boats extensively but by the military mostly so that is a whole new avenue as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 2:55:32 GMT -5
Just in case everyone thought it was all blue skies, exotic locations and palm trees. This would have been typical for crews with Imperial. A dawn departure from Southampton in winter, freezing rain, winds and terrible weather all the way. (It fits with some of the accounts I have read). So I am now flying the route again. Taxying for departure Southampton, freezing rain and winds: Last glimpse of the rising sun before we climb into the murk: And the rest of the journey was just this, low cloud rain until we got to Marseille. All on the clocks and rough.
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Post by Erik on Mar 4, 2019 7:25:23 GMT -5
As a west-European, I can relate to that! :-D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 7:22:20 GMT -5
A long forgotten era . Fossvogur the base for VP73 flying Catalinas and Martin Mariners just next to the airport at Reykyavik in Iceland.
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Post by tripacer59 on Oct 16, 2021 7:33:42 GMT -5
I have really enjoyed reading through these. Calclassic is the most engaging site, I love the constant search and standards for accuracy and as a new member, I am learning so much.... many many late nights but still able to be up for work the next day! Thank you so much to everyone for so much information everywhere I look. A huge thank you to Tom Gibson. One question, I think Bruce Kennewell did a blog of his recreation of the the Richard Doyle novel "Imperial 109" in a regular blog post format. It seems the blog service provider has gone, does anyone know if Bruce's Account is available elsewhere? Thank you again. Eric in the UK (on the southern edge of Poole Harbour (Flying boat base).
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