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Post by mdeval on Aug 10, 2023 9:29:39 GMT -5
Seems that development of classic era airports has come to somewhat of a halt for FS9. I haven't the knowledge / skill to create these things myself and sadly have to rely on the generosity and expertise of others. A few of the airports I've always hoped for are as follows:
In the Northeast: Portland, ME, Brainard in Hartford, Manchester, NH, Concord, NH though I don't know if Concord ever had any commercial service. They do have a sizable airport.
In West Virginia: Wheeling, Clarksburg, Morgantown, Beckley, and Charleston.
Just some thoughts in case anyone's considering.
Wishing and hoping,
Mike
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Aug 10, 2023 9:39:37 GMT -5
Hi,
I don’t know of anyone still creating classic civil airports for FS9, but we can always hope.
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Post by mdeval on Aug 10, 2023 11:48:50 GMT -5
Yeah, that's pretty much what I figured.
Thanks Tom
Mike
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Post by jsaus on Aug 10, 2023 12:48:26 GMT -5
Yeah I’ve always wanted to try. I actually did a semi reasonable job of a non classic airport at an aboriginal mission that I’ve flown to in real life in Australia. Can’t remember how I even did it. But it turned out ok. A much more real feeling than default.
But using generic buildings using one of the programs - sbuilder or something - is a different prospect to creating an airport to match a black and white image from a bad angle in 1952. With non skills at using the various programs needed.
Sounds daunting. So I have much respect for those that have made airports!
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Post by aharon on Aug 10, 2023 14:00:33 GMT -5
My wish is FSX version of Annette Island airport in 1960s used by props and 707s. Yes somebody here did the scenery for FSX but I could not figure out how to install it because it required library stuffs.
Wish somebody would do entire FSX scenery package of Annette Island airport without requirement to install many library stuffs.
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by mdeval on Aug 10, 2023 15:18:39 GMT -5
Always liked the Classic Pennsylvania airports. They were done by a gentleman named Czarnecki. Thought he'd be great at the WVa airports.
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Post by Jorge on Aug 10, 2023 17:09:30 GMT -5
Mike, There are some Illinois airports as well, if I'm not mistaken. They go well with the early O'Hare and Midway scenery. There are a few albums at Jon's site that are very informative, which is what I believe you may be referring to as far as the black and white pictures. Jon's Album Page 1The area in N.H. and the Northeast you're looking for is towards the end on pages 5 or 6? I regularly REALLY wish I had more time to work on stuff. What little I have I'm putting into the PW project to see if I can get something out by the end of the year, but no promises. Here's a link describing some methods by Tom and myself on backdating airports: Creating Classic Background Image for ADEIt's not all-encompassing, but it's a start! What's nice is that you can use that for the ground around it as well if you use both ADE and SBuilder9. Not sure how SBuilderX goes about making background images for use in the program since I don't have it, but if it supports a text file to configure the image coordinates it should work the same way if not very similar. Regards, Jorge Miami, FL
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Post by mrcapitalism on Aug 10, 2023 19:43:22 GMT -5
Time to dip your toes in, Mike? Wikipedia reports that Concord NH did have scheduled passenger air carrier service at some point. "There was once scheduled airline service at the airport on Northeast Airlines;" I found this neat historical document from the Concord City Council. It includes numerous images including several surveys of the land.. or master plans. www.concordnh.gov/DocumentCenter/View/1652
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Post by jwh on Aug 11, 2023 1:50:25 GMT -5
I always hoped for a vintage Dublin in FS9 with that beautiful late 30s terminal building. Had a look at a couple of different versions of the airport to see if it was possible to do a simple backdate as I have done on a few other airports but have been unable to due to the way the scenery was created.
One can still hope.
John
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Post by Bernard on Aug 11, 2023 8:50:15 GMT -5
As you know, most of the talented scenery creators aren't anymore active here. So I honestly and realistically fear that a wish list for the specific era will remain what it is: an unfulfilled desire!
Bernard
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Post by jacklyon on Aug 11, 2023 9:06:17 GMT -5
I always hoped for a vintage Dublin in FS9 with that beautiful late 30s terminal building. Had a look at a couple of different versions of the airport to see if it was possible to do a simple backdate as I have done on a few other airports but have been unable to due to the way the scenery was created. One can still hope. John Hi, I project to do Dublin 50s terminal & airport, in a near future (after some others things i am trying to finish before) but will not for be FS9, sorry, i will do it for MSFS. I not more do new scenerys for FS91 or P3D. Cheers.
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Post by mdeval on Aug 11, 2023 9:29:48 GMT -5
Just not going to happen with me. Something about new tricks and old dogs. Just have to, sadly, rely on the overwhelming generosity of others.
Mike
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Post by aharon on Aug 11, 2023 12:11:28 GMT -5
I also wish there is FSX scenery of year 1970s Shannon airport where 707s and 747s made refueling stopovers.
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by blueaircraft on Aug 11, 2023 12:41:00 GMT -5
Mine would be the addition of various African airports such as Salisbury in S. Rhodesia, Lourenco Marques in Mozambique, Blantyre in Malawi and Brazzaville in the Congo.
Europe-wise would be Madrid in Spain, and Dublin in Ireland.
Indian Ocean territories like Maruritius would ne nice.
West Indian destinations would be sublime! Kingston in Jamaica, and Piarco in Trinidad (my hometown) would be at the top of the list. Seawell at Barbados as well 🙂
My brother is actually good at 3d modeling, and I am learning bit by bit as well, and we can get references from the internet in 2023. Perhaps we can try to model a modest airport in one of these areas! Only thing is that we don't know what programs to use, and I do not want to modify the runways' VOR, ILS etc. unless you all simply want different "buildings" at the site...
Regards Andrew
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Post by connieguy on Aug 11, 2023 12:55:53 GMT -5
Of the airports listed in the first post of this thread Charleston has been done recently but the listing on the CC Scenery page says that it is FSX only when in fact it is FS9 only. It then goes on to say, quite correctly, that there is an FSX version by Dan French. It is true that many of the fine air bases being done by Al Von Pingel are not airports but some - Burtonwood, Goose Bay and Harmon, for example - did have civilian use. In the last year I have done a revised version of Shannon and a new version of Gander, two of the most important civilian airports of the time, along with Sydney, Nova Scotia and Moncton, New Brunswick. Al and I have also done Baghdad and Dhahran, as well as Bermuda, which filled a major hole in the classic world. They are all on Tom's scenery page. The suggestion that little has been happening with FS9 classic scenery in a general sense is therefore both misleading and unfair. Of course, if you were to say little has been happening with classic airports in the U.S.A. that would be a different matter, but that is really what this is about, is it not?
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