Connie leaning problem

[mkonareff]

Hi all,

During a little flight between with the L-049, I met some problem with the mixture levers:

When I was in cruise phase, I tried to use the "10%" button to automaticaly lean correctly the engines but the levers did not want to know what I wanted to do and it stayed at AUTO LEAN postion...
So after my flight, I tried with another Connie, the L1649, and same problem, when I click on the "10%" or the "15%" on the FE panel, nothing happens and the mixtures levers stay at the previous position and the only way for me to put the levers at the right position is to disable the automixture feature of the Connie and to lean manually with the Status window...

So I tried to make a fresh installation of the connies with all last updates, but still the same thing...
I am not sure anymore, but I think that I was able to control the mixture via these buttons some months ago.

The automixture in FS realism is unchecked

I searched on the forum if someone already met the same problem but I did not see something really similar.

Is it normal? Is there a problem?


Thanks by advance for your help.

Maxime

[Defender]

Hi Maxime,

I get the same problem with the L049 which is very strange as I recall it worked OK in beta testing. Neither the 10% nor the AL icons seem to have any effect. I'll discuss this with the Connie team and get back to you.

However I don't get a problem with the L1649. Both 10% and 15% work exactly as they should for me. In fact it doesn't seem to matter whether you start from AL, AR or any manual setting. Just as a test, at 18,000' set best with the SM icon. You should get f/a 0.085, blower HI and mixture AL on the status gauge. Pressing the 10% icon should then give you 0.064, HI and 16% respectively.

By the way the entries in the manuals are pages 8 and 21 for the L049, page 12 for the L1649 but I'm sure you've read these already.

Best regards

Bill

[mkonareff]

Hi Bill,

I am reassured that I am not the one who can't get this working.

Yes I have already read the Starliner manual as the other Connies, but it does not work either... It is very strange. I will take another look on the starliners leaning button later.

Many thanks for your help,
Best regards,

Maxime.

[volkerboehme]

Hi,

just a wild guess, but do you have FSUIPC.dll installed?

Best regards,
Volker

[mkonareff]

Hi Volker,

Yes I have fsuipc (the registered version) installed

Maxime.

[Defender]

Hi Maxime,

I think I've found the answer or at least the reason why I didn't get the AL or 10% icons to work on my L049 test flight.

The system simply doesn't work from any saved flight, nor it seems if you switch aircraft from say an L1049 to an L049 during a flight.

Try a fresh FS9 load with a new flight on the L049 and take it up to 10,000'. The SM icon should give you f/a 0.085, LO blower and AL on the status gauge. Then using the AL simicon should give you 0.073, LO, 27% and the 10% simicon give you 0.064, LO, 20% respectively.

Does that work for you?

Bon chance

Bill

[Tom/CalClassic]

And if that doesn't work you might try loading the default Cessna At SeaTac Flight first, then switch to the Connie and go to the airport you want to start at. Do NOT load any other flight.

[volkerboehme]

Hi,

here's what Luis says about leaning: "By a reason I don't remember, the short cut lean mixture setting code is in 2D panel icons gauge instead of in general Sim.xml gauge. So, to be effective, you must at least open one time the 2D panel after loading the airplane. Conditions for mixture icons to be operating are mixture levers below 43% and altitude above 4500 ft. "

So,
- 2D panel has to be open at least once before 10% shortcut,
- aircraft above 4500 ft,
- mixture below 43%.

That should work.

Best regards,
Volker

[mkonareff]

Hello everyone,

I am sorry for the delay of my answer, I have just tried with all your ideas but unfortunately it still does not work.
I have also checked my installation and it seems to be okay.
Any other idea?


Best regards

Maxime

[mrcapitalism]

Do you have a hardware mixture knob that may be over-riding the sim mixture?

[mkonareff]

Hello Mrcapitalism,

Thanks for your answer.

I have the saitek Throttle but after your message I tried without this hardware and the problem remains the same.

[Defender]

Hi Maxime,

Sorry to hear that it still doesn't work for you and I can't immediately think of any other solution.

All I can suggest is that you again try the test flights I mention in my 5 March and 14 March messages and let me know what your status panel readings are before and after the tests.

Remember these important points,

- the box "enable automixture" in the FS9 realism settings panel must be unchecked/blank,
- fly at least above 5,000'
- cycle through all the view settings or at least the 2D windows including the main and FE panels as Volker suggests.

Bill

[mkonareff]

Hello Bill,

Well, again I am sorry for my really late answer, I have been a bit busy during these last months.

I have been able to get the AL and 10% buttons working on a fresh FS9 install and L-049 above 10 000 ft but I am still not able to use these buttons on my classic install...
The problem is that I really don't know what could be interfering with the gauges.

EDIT :

I think I am about to find the origin of the problem :

It seems to be related to the FSUIPC Joystick assignments (even if the joystick is disconnected)
I tried to delete the Mixture axis but strangely it did not change anything...
So I also tried to configure all my FSUIPC axis by "Send to FS as a normal axis" instead of "Send direct to FSUIPC calibration" and reset the axis calibration and now it seems to work (until now!) but if I calibrate again the mixture axis, the leaning buttons are inoperative again.

It seems that the mixture axis works fine without the need to be calibrated in FSUIPC but it looks really strange to me...
Is this behavior normal? Has anyone met this issue?


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Thanks again for your help

Cheers,
Maxime

[mrcapitalism]

I have the Saitek quadrant but to be honest I haven't flown a connie since I started using it. However, I do find that physical control positions override the simulator "behind the scenes" gauges for aircraft control. For example, my jets have no mixture controls in the cockpit, but I can shut down the engines by moving the mixture control on my throttle quadrant to idle-cutoff. On some of my propeller aircraft the propeller governor is controlled automatically, but if I move the propeller control on my quadrant then it will command RPM changes. My physical throttle will also temporarily override auto throttle commands, at least until the physical position is no longer sensed. My solution is to leave the controls, that are not being used by that specific aircraft, in the full forward position so that the quadrant doesn't send any signals and those signals don't mess up the simulator logic, and hopefully any errant movement doesn't feather the props or cut fuel. They really can be left in any position so long as they are not moved, or are not 'twitching' between positions (which will make gauge code have no effect).

[Tom/CalClassic]

Hi,

Yes, I do the same thing.