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Howard 500
Aug 19, 2014 12:17:31 GMT -5
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Post by warbaby on Aug 19, 2014 12:17:31 GMT -5
I'm wondering, does anyone fly the Howard? It's one of my favorite aircraft to fly, but the takeoffs are a bit questionable.
In a full power takeoff the aircraft can reach 80 kts in a matter of seconds, and be climbing at 140 kts+ soon after. I know Shupe does fantastic work, but how accurate is this?
I tried playing with the flight model but I can't get it just right.
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Post by ejoiner on Aug 19, 2014 22:15:01 GMT -5
Dunno, but I got to see this airplane at La Guardia airport once. Was on a delta airplane headed to Atlanta as usual and looked out the window and there she sat! I said out loud "Holy Sh*t! its the Howard 500!" lady next to me wondered if I had lost my mind.
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Post by Maarten on Aug 20, 2014 2:37:48 GMT -5
The Howard 500 has the same engines as the Convair 440 (2x 2,500hp (max t-o) P&W Double Wasp CB-17 or 2x 2,400 hp (max t-o) Double Wasp CB-16, depending on the fuel). The max t-o weight (CB-17 powered) of the Howard is roughly 34,500 lbs, of the Convair is 49,700 lbs. Change to METO power is for both aircraft about the same: at 150-155 kts. Compared to the Convair the Howard is definitely a Formula 1 plane, so I've never been doubting about the accuracy of the Howard's flight model. A wee extra  www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz-P84LVjNUCheers, Maarten |
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Post by warbaby on Aug 20, 2014 6:29:14 GMT -5
Thanks ejoiner, and thanks maarten, I didn't realize that the Howard shared the engines with the 440. That does explain a lot. Allen
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Post by mdeval on Aug 20, 2014 10:29:07 GMT -5
Don't recall ever seeing any handling notes for this aircraft. V speeds etc. Anybody know if they're published anywhere ?
Mike
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Post by sak1134 on Aug 20, 2014 10:48:51 GMT -5
In the mid 90's when I worked at Tamiami airport in Miami FL there was one of these parked/abandoned in front of our FBO. Apparently it was used to smuggle drugs and would "hide" under the radar signature of a business jet. Clearly it had some speed. Sadly while I was working there it was cut up for scrap.
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Post by Maarten on Aug 20, 2014 14:05:57 GMT -5
Don't recall ever seeing any handling notes for this aircraft. V speeds etc. Anybody know if they're published anywhere ? Mike Hello Mike, If you mean the handling notes for Milton's Howard 500, they have been included in the package (Howard 500.zip) available from the Warbird Library at Sim-Outhouse.com. For the official numbers see the FAA issued Type Certificate www.gjsmith.net/Milton_Shupe/howard500/A1sw.pdfCheers, Maarten Plus video of take off and low pass of Howard 500: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJni942lsbY |
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Post by mdeval on Aug 20, 2014 19:50:38 GMT -5
Got it sir ! Thank you. I do remember now that I'd seen the notes there, just hadn't been in the file in ages.
Mike
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