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Post by Ice on Jan 22, 2023 11:16:26 GMT -5
I don't know where to ask this but, I'm working on a flightplan for PATCO(Philippine aerial taxi company) but I don't know what aircraft they operated, can someone help me with this? thanks
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 22, 2023 12:36:03 GMT -5
Nothing in the 1962 OAG except Philippine Air Lines, sorry.
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Post by phlyer on Jan 22, 2023 12:40:54 GMT -5
Looks like PATCO used Sikorsky S-43 twin-engine amphibians during the 1930's. Phil
ps...looks like I was wrong about the S-43. If you google the airline, there are various images that show a single engine aircraft. I think they're PATCO baggage tags.
Phil
pps...at timetableimages.com the PATCO 1930's timetables mention the Bellanca Sky Rocket as well as the cabin Waco. In his youth, my Dad soloed a cabin type Waco at Military Rd. airfield (long gone) near Buffalo, N.Y. This was just before WW2.
Phil
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jan 22, 2023 12:46:12 GMT -5
In REG Davies book Airlines of Asia:
1931 - flying a single engine Stinson and Waco. Scheduled route Manila-Baguio. 1934 - three single engine Bellancas added. 1938 - lost an aircraft north of Manila. 1939 - told they could not use single engine aircraft, went into bankruptcy, and ceased operations. Over this time 25,000 passengers were carried, 4,000 to Baguio and 2,000 to Paracale, site of a mine owned by airline's investors.
Hope this helps,
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Post by Ice on Jan 22, 2023 12:53:06 GMT -5
In REG Davies book Airlines of Asia: 1931 - flying a single engine Stinson and Waco. Scheduled route Manila-Baguio. 1934 - three single engine Bellancas added. 1938 - lost an aircraft north of Manila. 1939 - told they could not use single engine aircraft, went into bankruptcy, and ceased operations. Over this time 25,000 passengers were carried, 4,000 to Baguio and 2,000 to Paracale, site of a mine owned by airline's investors. Hope this helps, Ok, thanks that's enough info I need
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Post by Jorge on Jan 22, 2023 20:34:56 GMT -5
Hey Ice, Don't get to do much FS anymore, but still try to keep up here on the website when I can. Part of the info I gathered for the project I've been doing on and off were the airfields for companies just like PATCO. They operated out of Nielson Field in Manila, just north and east of Nichols (Aquino Intl today). Here's the Wikipedia article: Nielson Field, Manila (Wikipedia)The other airports they flew to were basically grass or dirt strips. Not much by way of infrastrcture, but then again, it was the '30's after all. The layout was basically a "drooping" "L" shape at about a 60* angle or so, with the two "runways" (if you can call them that) joining on the southwest side near the road intersections. That's the area where the building that survives to this day is. The runways themselves didn't originally intersect. They were "joined" by the Japanese when extended to the length they had at the end of the war, which happens to be the length they kept until they closed down in the late '40's or so. Hangars were along the south side of the airport, but they were metallic ones. The generic, open, large ones with the peaked roofs that are available in the CalClassic library would be fine for this field. I think there were two of them, but can't remember since it's been a while since I've looked at the info. Regards, Jorge Miami, FL
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Post by Ice on Jan 23, 2023 2:55:37 GMT -5
Hey Ice, Don't get to do much FS anymore, but still try to keep up here on the website when I can. Part of the info I gathered for the project I've been doing on and off were the airfields for companies just like PATCO. They operated out of Nielson Field in Manila, just north and east of Nichols (Aquino Intl today). Here's the Wikipedia article: Nielson Field, Manila (Wikipedia)The other airports they flew to were basically grass or dirt strips. Not much by way of infrastrcture, but then again, it was the '30's after all. The layout was basically a "drooping" "L" shape at about a 60* angle or so, with the two "runways" (if you can call them that) joining on the southwest side near the road intersections. That's the area where the building that survives to this day is. The runways themselves didn't originally intersect. They were "joined" by the Japanese when extended to the length they had at the end of the war, which happens to be the length they kept until they closed down in the late '40's or so. Hangars were along the south side of the airport, but they were metallic ones. The generic, open, large ones with the peaked roofs that are available in the CalClassic library would be fine for this field. I think there were two of them, but can't remember since it's been a while since I've looked at the info. Regards, Jorge Miami, FL Okay, I just finished making the traffic file, I had to use a piper cub as a stand in for now because there is no Bellanca sky rocket available for fsx, also I did something kind of funny, the last time I attempted to do nielson, the airfield ended up underneath a freaking building, so what I did was I used the nearest airfield to RPLL and made that nielson field
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Post by Ice on Jan 24, 2023 9:38:27 GMT -5
Actually I have found somethin' good for a stand-in as a Bellanca Sky Rocket, I can repaint the MAC flamingo available on avsim in a PATCO livery.
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Post by cobar on Jan 24, 2023 10:15:45 GMT -5
According to the pre war Philippines Civil Aircraft Register PATCO also operated a Waco EQC-6 and three Waco UKC aircraft.
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