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Post by discoazul2000 on Apr 14, 2023 11:29:53 GMT -5
Hello, I am trying to reduce rejected landings as well as airplanes from disappearing while waiting to take off at SBGL, so I blocked the main runway for landings only at both ends to see if the AI would use the other runway which is equally long. Result, airplanes use the other runway for landing but airplanes no longer take off either from the main runway, or from the other one.....they just disappear straight out of the gate. Thank you in advance for any help. Cheers.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Apr 14, 2023 12:40:16 GMT -5
This normally means there is no valid path from the gate to the assigned runway. Use ATIS to confirm the runway in use, and make sure there is a valid taxiway path to that runway.
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Post by discoazul2000 on Apr 14, 2023 13:43:32 GMT -5
Thank you, yes the paths are there. I've only checked the box for "Closed for Landings" at both ends of the main runway in AFCAD. I've done nothing else.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Apr 14, 2023 15:12:33 GMT -5
I have no idea, sorry. It has always been an invalid path for me.
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Post by discoazul2000 on Apr 14, 2023 16:38:14 GMT -5
OK. Thanks anyway.
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Post by Al on Apr 14, 2023 17:26:08 GMT -5
If you mail th afcad bgl I can look at it. Avpingel at gmail.
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Post by johnhinson on Apr 15, 2023 1:18:53 GMT -5
Thank you, yes the paths are there. I've only checked the box for "Closed for Landings" at both ends of the main runway in AFCAD. I've done nothing else. FS2004 can apparently be very particular at times, and the reasons aren't always easy to identify. But for thoroughness, I would certainly recommend changing the runway you don't want to use to be "Closed for Take-off" too. You might even want to try removing the Start Locations on that runway to convince AI traffic that the runway does not exist. John
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Apr 15, 2023 9:03:01 GMT -5
I think his goal was to more effectively use both runways so there isn’t as much waiting, so that would require both runways in use. I have done that at LAX, putting all takeoffs on the runway with fewer landings.
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Post by discoazul2000 on Apr 15, 2023 9:54:48 GMT -5
If you mail th afcad bgl I can look at it. Avpingel at gmail. Thank you. I will email the AFCAD I am using with the default setup....meaning without the "closed for landings" box checked.
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Post by discoazul2000 on Apr 15, 2023 10:01:24 GMT -5
I think his goal was to more effectively use both runways so there isn’t as much waiting, so that would require both runways in use. I have done that at LAX, putting all takeoffs on the runway with fewer landings. I believe it works better when the airport has parallel runways like LAX.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Apr 15, 2023 10:09:20 GMT -5
It does, although there is a technique that can make runways parallel if they are not, but it does have some drawbacks. I used that technique for O’Hare, because one runway is just not enough.
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Post by discoazul2000 on Apr 15, 2023 10:12:08 GMT -5
Thank you, yes the paths are there. I've only checked the box for "Closed for Landings" at both ends of the main runway in AFCAD. I've done nothing else. FS2004 can apparently be very particular at times, and the reasons aren't always easy to identify. But for thoroughness, I would certainly recommend changing the runway you don't want to use to be "Closed for Take-off" too. You might even want to try removing the Start Locations on that runway to convince AI traffic that the runway does not exist. John Hello John, I tried that before I posted my initial comment, and the result was there were no take-offs ad no landings at the airport. Cheers
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Post by johnhinson on Apr 15, 2023 10:44:12 GMT -5
I think his goal was to more effectively use both runways so there isn’t as much waiting, so that would require both runways in use. I have done that at LAX, putting all takeoffs on the runway with fewer landings. But that won't work because (unlike KLAX) the runways at SBGL are not parallel! John
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Post by Al on Apr 15, 2023 12:17:07 GMT -5
I remember having a hell of time going Travis’s parallel but not side by side runways to work right. I will have to go back and see what I ended up doing.
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