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Post by dutch11 on Sept 21, 2009 9:20:58 GMT -5
I was flying the Junkers K-43 the other day which I had downloaded when it first came out but hadn't flown yet. When you start the engine, you get a good bang that I assume is meant to simulate a Kaufman starter (if you've seen "Flight of the Phoenix" you've seen its operation already). It got me to wondering how many aircraft used them. I did a Google search but didn't come up with much except that they were used primarily on military aircraft. Does anybody know whether any of the prop liners like the ones on this site had Kaufman starters installed?
Mark
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Sept 21, 2009 10:57:59 GMT -5
I don't think that any propliners that I routinely fly had them, but I have no idea about planes before the DC-3. After that electric starters were pretty much standard on US airliners.
I know the Canberra (B-57 in the US) had some kind of powder cartridges that were used to start the engines - a plume of black smoke shot straight up when they were started.
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Post by aspen31 on Sept 22, 2009 8:09:12 GMT -5
Hi all
Interestingly I have a device in my collection that was one of several purchased years ago at a surplus dealer. It looks like a kind of large electric powered revolver (28 Volt) and I was told that it was an "initiator" used in the starting of some aircraft, perhaps even as late as a Grumman Albatross or one of the other flying boats such as a Mariner. The last one I have is packed in the original storage box so I can't study it at present but it is certainly an interesting piece. Not sure how accurate my information is but perhaps someone else can shed some additional light.
Warren
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Post by Randy_Cain on Sept 25, 2009 7:21:33 GMT -5
Hi, WWII era C-119 Boxcars had those starters too....for emergencies. Yours,  |
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Post by pilotgod on Sept 25, 2009 12:22:38 GMT -5
Hi, WWII era C-119 Boxcars had those starters too....for emergencies. Yours, Yup, you can see it in use in the original (read better) "Flight of the Phoenix" with Jimmy Stewart. Towards the end of the movie, Stewart in a showdown with Kruger clears the cylinders with the shells, then starts the engine with the last remaining one. I bet most here have seen it, but if you haven't, go get it (remake is ok, but the original is the best IMO), the plane they make actually flew, but crashed during filming killing the pilot/builder, Paul Mantz. Mantz is known for many of his flying stunts in movies, like the B-17 belly landing in "12 o'clock High" and crashing a Beech 18 through a billboard in "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World". |
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DC-3
noise and smoke!
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Post by chrisp on Sept 26, 2009 16:18:20 GMT -5
Lots of British aircraft: Typhoon, Tempest, Sea Hawk...
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Post by circleman on Sept 26, 2009 21:09:14 GMT -5
if youre talking fighters: Corsair!
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Post by stansdds on Sept 27, 2009 6:25:26 GMT -5
Some Corsairs used a Coffman starter. All F4U/FG/F3A-1 (Corsair I) and F4U/FG/F3A-1A (Corsair II and III) rolled out of the factory with cartridge starters. Beginning with the F4U/FG-1D (Corsair IV) and F4U-1C (20mm cannon armed version of the -1D) and all subsequent Corsairs used an electric starter motor.
All Grumman Hellcats used cartridge starters.
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chrisp
DC-3
noise and smoke!
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Post by chrisp on Sept 27, 2009 7:04:55 GMT -5
On this side of the pond: F-105D and F-4C
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Post by Willy on Oct 3, 2009 17:34:56 GMT -5
Griffon powered Spitfires used the Coffman starter too. I redid the starter sounds on the Aeroplane Heaven Mk XIX photo recon one to use a cartridge starter instead of an electric whine. Now it has a nice bang then it starts up.
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