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Post by circleman on Oct 13, 2009 18:59:03 GMT -5
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jazz5
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Post by jazz5 on Oct 14, 2009 5:46:16 GMT -5
Let's assume they won't make the same mistake when they designed FSX which made it so impopular and unacceptable to the Flightsim community
cheers
Jazz
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Post by Mike on Oct 14, 2009 6:32:20 GMT -5
Could be very good news indeed. But I'm content with FS9 for the foreseeable future. I also think that Microsoft's exit from the simulations scene has been good news for us, as the lack of new versions of FS has meant it's worth developer's time and effort in bringing enhancements and addons to the market for the current versions. My big concern for current versions is that one day, the operating systems etc won't run this "old" stuff.
Cheers,
Mike
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Post by Connie Flyer on Oct 14, 2009 8:13:29 GMT -5
regarding.......
Let's assume they won't make the same mistake when they designed FSX which made it so impopular and unacceptable to the Flightsim community
cheers
Jazz ...
Who says fsx is a big mistake. Where are the hoards of folks that reject it. If you really tried it and did the things that the real "pros" like Nick Needham and textnetcop on the "other" forums you might see the error of your statement. I kept fs9 on my system until last year when I put forth the effort to run fsx correctly. Never will I put fs9 back. The diffenence is amazing, the immersive quality of the renderings is fantastic. And I don't have a top of the line system to run it. Just average and did all the tweaks and procedures. Just got tired of all the bashing of fsx and the developers that had to design a flightsiim product allowing ancient equipment to still be able to run it albeit not satisfactorilly. Just my two cents. If you have not tried it, don't knock it
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Post by ashaman on Oct 14, 2009 9:28:08 GMT -5
Connie Flyer... The fact that you liked FSX doesn't change the OBJECTIVE FACT that the greater majority of the other simmers ( yours truly included) judged it the crap heap it was and remains in spite of TWO patches ( bombastically called service packs) and got rid of it ASAP. For the love of everything that is sacred and righteous, I'm not going to list my/our reasons for refusing to use the rightful inheritor of FS2000 ( mostly because getting unrestful over such an abort of simulator is a waste... and because the list would need its own looooong thread), but facts remain FACTS.  As for this news about ACES... I can only shrug... surely they are smarting at not being able to play golf for the greater part of the day anymore, like before ( it wouldn't explain else in any other way why their softwares stank like a sewer in summer)... but from here to make something really interesting... not to say a flight simulation ( that for copyright reasons should be completely new, and not based on the code of FS that remains property of M$)... there's a long way. We'll see, I guess.  |
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Oct 14, 2009 9:33:00 GMT -5
Well, I have tried FSX several times (on several different computers) and it doesn't do what I want it to do. First was fix the bugs in FS9 - they're almost all still there, along with plenty of new ones. Second was improve ATC and AI aircraft - nope they actually made them worse. Third was run acceptably on a quad core computer with 4 GB of memory with 100% propliner AI traffic and our retro sceneries - nope, it's a slide show. Fourth was display our 100% FS2004 XML scenery correctly (i.e. support their own previous version, as they stated they would) - nope, many, many problems. So FSX is a no go for me. That said, I do agree that the graphics in FSX are better, along with the flight "feel" of the plane moving through the air. For people with simple scenery and little AI, flying planes that go low and slow, FSX is a must. And that said, please agree to disagree on this topic - it's been covered before.  And I have no intention of ever moving from FS9 to either Aerosoft's nor Aces offering... Hope this helps, |
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Post by jazz5 on Oct 14, 2009 10:01:21 GMT -5
regarding....... Let's assume they won't make the same mistake when they designed FSX which made it so impopular and unacceptable to the Flightsim community cheers Jazz ... Who says fsx is a big mistake. Where are the hoards of folks that reject it. If you really tried it and did the things that the real "pros" like Nick Needham and textnetcop on the "other" forums you might see the error of your statement. I kept fs9 on my system until last year when I put forth the effort to run fsx correctly. Never will I put fs9 back. The diffenence is amazing, the immersive quality of the renderings is fantastic. And I don't have a top of the line system to run it. Just average and did all the tweaks and procedures. Just got tired of all the bashing of fsx and the developers that had to design a flightsiim product allowing ancient equipment to still be able to run it albeit not satisfactorilly. Just my two cents. If you have not tried it, don't knock it Connieflyer, I'm pleased to tell you I've flown FSX in the past 3 weeks on-line (WCATC) for nearly 60 hours to inaugurate my new system and tweaked the CFG according the latest tips and run the sim with sliders fully to the right to enjoy the scenery. Still, I'm not impressed and I want to point out the majority of files available at the regular flightsim sites are mainly for FS9. Imho Microsoft took a much too big leap with FSX at the time of publishing when systems were not ready to handle the prog properly. Probably that's the reason the flightsim community is still sticking to FS9. Just my two heller :-) cheers Jazz |
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Post by Colonial on Oct 14, 2009 11:56:10 GMT -5
I hardly constitute a 'horde' by myself ;D but for my part, I just like FS9 because it runs the way I want it to and I have it where I like it. I don't have enough energy yet to tackle FSX and tweak it. Like Tom said, this has been beat to death, we're all friends and propheads here, so I don't want to see anyone getting sore, everyone respects everyone elses feelings on what they like, as long as you are happy and enjoy it, thats all thats important. Have fun, fly and watch your manifold pressure!!  |
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Post by ashaman on Oct 14, 2009 18:10:23 GMT -5
Absolutely no polemic on my part. Of all my VA, only few use FSX. One of them because he must, having displaced his copy of FS9 ( but trying desperately to find it back)... another because he liked the A2A B377 and the Connies payware they're making only for it, and willingly or not found himself shackled to FSX... and another because he built a home cockpit and some drivers for the hardware he bought was only for FSX... or somesuch thing... A lot of the remaining uses both FS9 and X-plane ( some more the first and a little less the second, others the contrary), me among them, and some others only FS9.  X-plane... I find it ironic that FSX was in reality the greatest gift from M$ to Austin Meyer and his X-plane even before they decided to bail out from the flight simulation business... and thinking about it... likewise sVista was a great gift towards Linux... might it be that at M$ they're thinking to bail out from the OS business as well? ;D Jokes aside, let it be clear that I do not want to tell anyone what they must do ( there's the government for that, I would be way too redundant). If you like FSX, who am I to tell you to do or feel differently. Feel free to use it at your complete leisure. This said, I warn you, don't ever hope I will ever stay silent while someone defines as made of silk what was instead made of wool in a public place like a forum like this. It would make me accomplice by silent agreement. Not going to happen. It's the way I am and feel as well. |
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Post by pung on Oct 14, 2009 19:49:45 GMT -5
I have a high performance system, and run FSX sometimes in in the modern era. However, the CalClassics is about older times, older airports, and older scenery. FS9 is the answer, because it allows the simmer to decide what he wants. If you want graphics, FSX is pretty neat, but for me (and I know a lot of others), FS9 is the ticket. Look at Tom's Idlewild, and tell me that FSX can give you that feel. I have the computer, the memory, and the video card for FSX, but my enjoyment always is with OUR scenery. Idlewild, Vegas '59, Stapleton, Midway '59, that is what the CalClassics are about. Keep FSX, yes---replace FS9 -NO chance.
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