Here's a quick one: If navigators were banned from the flight deck during the classic period, who was responsible for navigating planes like the L-1649 over the pole? Was it PNF and, if so, would an instrument rating qualify him to do that? Dave
Keep in mind, the only thing really seperating the navigator from the flight engineer, radio operator, and, finally, the pilot and co-pilot was one thin wall (a solid partition, really), then the only thing between the radio op and the FE was ...a curtain, to keep the light out of the c o c k pit glass at night.
OH MY GOD... Tom, you're going to have to modify the word filter a bit. The "thingypit"? That's MUCH, MUCH worse!
Last Edit: Aug 8, 2008 17:12:17 GMT -5 by Randy_Cain
;DJust like a certain credit card advertises, "Don't Leave Home Without One.".....I recall one flight many years ago when I was flying from Tinker AFB in Oklahoma City to Kindley Air Force Base in Bermuda. I had a new navigator on board and it was his first overwater flgiht. I kept track of where we were going but I let him give the headings....we wound up in the Bahamas...after he was kidded quite a bit, we turned northward and landed without incident. USAF dropped Kindley and it was turned over to the U.S. Navy for operational control.
United was still using navigators at least through the late 1960 and, I think, into the early 1970's. I remember them fondly as true professionals in the best sense of the word.
After the Vietnam MAC flights ended and the INS proved it's self on the DC-8's they were offered early retirement or conversion to pilot if they qualified for an FAA First Class medical with United picking up the cost of all their training. Several I flew with when they were navigators have since retired as captains.