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Post by davidm on Aug 8, 2008 16:55:56 GMT -5
Here's a quick one:
If navigators were banned from the flight deck during the classic period, who was responsible for navigating planes like the L-1649 over the pole? Was it PNF and, if so, would an instrument rating qualify him to do that?
Dave
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Post by Randy_Cain on Aug 8, 2008 17:09:57 GMT -5
Hi, Keep in mind, the only thing really seperating the navigator from the flight engineer, radio operator, and, finally, the pilot and co-pilot was one thin wall (a solid partition, really), then the only thing between the radio op and the FE was ...a curtain, to keep the light out of the c o c k pit glass at night. Yours,  OH MY GOD... Tom, you're going to have to modify the word filter a bit. The "thingypit"? That's MUCH, MUCH worse!  |
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Aug 8, 2008 19:58:32 GMT -5
Hi, Navigators were banned in the continental US, not the rest of the world (or over the oceans). I'll change that.  Hope this helps, |
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Post by jesse on Aug 9, 2008 9:06:06 GMT -5
;DJust like a certain credit card advertises, "Don't Leave Home Without One.".....I recall one flight many years ago when I was flying from Tinker AFB in Oklahoma City to Kindley Air Force Base in Bermuda. I had a new navigator on board and it was his first overwater flgiht. I kept track of where we were going but I let him give the headings....we wound up in the Bahamas...after he was kidded quite a bit, we turned northward and landed without incident. USAF dropped Kindley and it was turned over to the U.S. Navy for operational control.
Jesse
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Post by johnl on Aug 9, 2008 16:24:19 GMT -5
BOAC were still using Navigators in 1963 (ref Eric Woods "From Flying Boats to Flying Jets")
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Post by quink99 on Aug 10, 2008 14:32:56 GMT -5
United was still using navigators at least through the late 1960 and, I think, into the early 1970's. I remember them fondly as true professionals in the best sense of the word.
After the Vietnam MAC flights ended and the INS proved it's self on the DC-8's they were offered early retirement or conversion to pilot if they qualified for an FAA First Class medical with United picking up the cost of all their training. Several I flew with when they were navigators have since retired as captains.
Good men all.
Quink
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