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Post by oldpropfan on Jan 1, 2009 17:35:51 GMT -5
I must be going blind but I can't find a download link to a short nose CV-340 anywhere on the site. I'm already using the UAL version in FSX but would like the other one to use in my own little cargo operation. TIA for the help and a Happy New Year to everyone  Al |
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Post by eddiejez on Jan 1, 2009 18:01:54 GMT -5
Hi odlpropfan you will find a short nose cv 340 on avsim look for ( ans_c340.zip ) rgds Edd  |
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Post by Maarten on Jan 2, 2009 4:14:03 GMT -5
Hi oldpropfan, If you look at Avsim.com for the KLM Convair 340 (cv-340klm.zip) not only will you find the same short nose model as the one Edd advised you, but also an excellent sound package, with recordings of the real thing (I've seen AND heard many Convairs in my life, particularly KLM 340's). Cheers, Maarten |
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Post by johnhinson on Jan 2, 2009 19:02:53 GMT -5
Hi oldpropfan, If you look at Avsim.com for the KLM Convair 340 (cv-340klm.zip) not only will you find the same short nose model as the one Edd advised you, but also an excellent sound package, with recordings of the real thing (I've seen AND heard many Convairs in my life, particularly KLM 340's). :D Cheers, Maarten Curious that, for if I'm not mistaken that sound package is remarkably like Mike Hambley's DC-3 FS2002 sound set which was apparently made from a real DC-3 in Holland ( library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=12776 ). :o) I will give it a whirl with my Convairs, though, thanks for the tip. John |
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Post by Maarten on Jan 3, 2009 3:19:18 GMT -5
Hi John, Best wishes for 2009. Having been active in the Dutch Dakota Association for years and having heard DC-3's from the inside and outside at all MAPs and rpm's, I think Mike Hambly can't possibly have recorded those sound from real DC-3 (let alone a real DC-3 in Holland) unless that DC-3 had the R-2800's and engine nacelles of a Convair. I really think he wrote the wrong text on his recordings. I joined two pleasure flights (in 1979 and 1985) in the Convair 440 of the Norwegian Metropolitan club so got a very good impression of that one too (I still got cassette recordings from the second flight). Mike Hambly's sound, particularly the outside sound, is very close to that of the real Convair. Actually I wonder if he recorded the sounds from the Air Atlantique Convair during one of the rare moments that it flew. That would make more sense. Anyway, I am very happy with Mike Hambly's sound anyway, because I like to fly the Convairliner very much, even if it is behing my computer.  Cheers, Maarten |
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Post by johnhinson on Jan 3, 2009 5:11:53 GMT -5
Hi Maarten,
Back in the days of FS2002 daksnd1.zip was THE sound set that people used for DC-3s (recorded by Reoland Ludoph, according to the readme) but I wouldn't seek to judge how accurate/inaccurate it is or any other.
I was just pulling your leg really - it never ceases to amaze me how new sound sets get uploaded which are "as real as it gets" but are completely different to the last lot which were as real as it got.
I have a different sound set for the DC-3 now - the MAAM-SIM "real" FS2002 and "real" FS2004 are quite different and I find the latter and Trevor M's too refined against my memory of the deep pounding roar so have lashed up my own with a bit of all three. I guess there is a limit to how real it can ever be when sitting at your computer without making the neighbours walls vibrate!
Sadly I've never heard a 340 from inside or out so I shall gladly follow your good advice. Beauty should be in the ear of the beholder, that's the important thing.
Best wishes,
John
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Post by Maarten on Jan 3, 2009 6:18:30 GMT -5
Hi John, I was just thinking "What's happening to my leg?"  You're very welcome indeed. The sound packages you mentioned are the ones that got into my mind too. Both are definitely genuine DC-3/C-47 sounds. In fact the MAAM-SIM package has been recorded from DDA's PH-DDZ (I wouldn't be surprised if "our" Piston Paul has been involved in the recordings some way or the other). You are absolutely right, this "deep pounding roar" as you call it is not really there, but I noticed over the years (through speaker boxes and headphones) that this is something missing from many prop engine sounds in FS. Something that annoyed me a great deal when I tweaked the sound.cfg for the DC-4/C-54/Carvair and revised the sound.cfg of the SOH Invader for the DC-6 and CL-215. I just couldn't catch that deep sound and I didn't want to change David Copley's wav-files because they really are that good. That's where I decided that there's a limit to what one can (and wishes) to do. BTW, thank you (again) for all your great work with the Voicepack. Makes virtual life so much more realistic. All the best, Maarten |
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Post by oldpropfan on Jan 3, 2009 23:48:59 GMT -5
John, Maarten, and Eddie; thanks for the info, been away for a few days and am now off to download. Glad to see I'm not the only one that noticed the various prop sounds seem to lack that deep throbbing note, I thought maybe it was just my not so highend sound card.
For variety I use different authors sound sets for the same model aircraft, figuring that no 2 aircraft sound exactly alike anyway. I think I'm currently using 6 different sound sets for the dc-3 alone.
Al
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Post by Piston Paul on Jan 8, 2009 7:32:43 GMT -5
Reading these posts about sounds, I have the same feeling.
(Maarten, I have nothing to do with sound recording for the MAAM Dak. I even doubt that it is our DDZ that was recorded, anyway I know nothing about that. )
The thing I always miss in the MAAM Dak is the sound that you experience in the cockpit (where most Simmers are situated..) during cruise power. Take-off and 1st, 2nd reduction and climb power is ok, but as soon as you set cruise power (2100 RPM / 27 - 30" ) the sound "reduces" to a somewhat 'underpowered' rumble, if you know what I mean.
Cruise power in a Dak is a constant "roar" , like you hear when reducing power in the MAAM in climb (aprox. 42" / 2400RPM or so). I like that moment a lot, it is soooooo nice !!! ;D
Don't know what can be done to keep/ get that sound for cruise power, only a bit lower in tone. I'm not good in tweaking sounds, although I tweaked the SOH Invader a bit to keep a nice roar during climb. I have Maarten's modified sounds, but still, when throttleling down, I missed the deep brown roar !
Cheers.
Piston Paul
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Post by Maarten on Jan 8, 2009 9:27:52 GMT -5
(Maarten, I have nothing to do with sound recording for the MAAM Dak. I even doubt that it is our DDZ that was recorded, anyway I know nothing about that. ) I'm puzzled. I was absolutely sure that I had read about the sound being DDZ's in the information on/in the box of the MAAM Dak. But now I'm very much in doubt. Help, we're only in the second week of the new year......  Cheers, Maarten |
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