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Post by Johan Dees on Feb 19, 2009 15:11:50 GMT -5
This year is a very special year for The Netherlands and the Dutch VACC: year of a century of flight in the Netherlands! In the year 1909 the first aircraft took off from Dutch soil. Of course we want to remember this. KLM, Royal Dutch Airlines also celebrates its 90th anniversary, the airline was founded in 1919. We invite you to join us in this event. Schiphol Old School will take place on Saturday 21st February, from 19:00 till 22:00 UTC. How about a Constellation or a Douglas DC-2? And have you ever flown the classic Fokker F-27? This event is one of the best opportunities to fly such an aircraft. Also the Dutch controllers will take care to give you a feeling of the past. During this event, PAR Approaches will be available (ILS also of course, but a PAR is far more spectacular)! PAR stands for Precision Approach Radar, and this is more or less a 'spoken' ILS approach, which was used in the '50s. Actually it is a precision approach, this means there is a decision height, instead of a minimum descend altitude! Read more about it in our manuals .. www.dutchvacc.nl/index.phpI try to do it in the starliner..if on time.. anyone else from Calclassic join me ? Johan |
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Post by jesse on Feb 19, 2009 16:02:56 GMT -5
Johan, you may have seen this already, but just in case....I am posting it again. This is a clip of a GCA unit in operation at Templehof during the Berlin Air Lift....we had the capability of bringing the aircraft right down to runway elevation and landing. GCA was used right into the 60s and some time ahead of PAR. Jesse www.netdot.com/jcallahan/GCA_Berlin_Templehof.wmv |
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Post by Johan Dees on Feb 20, 2009 9:59:51 GMT -5
Its a great find!
They talked about instrument landings no good, and GCA was the solution. I wonder if they ment ILS ? ILS sure would be more precise then a GCA ?
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Post by jesse on Feb 20, 2009 10:38:55 GMT -5
ILS was still in its infancy back then. It did not exist except at a couple of test installations. GCA was the only sure method and it remained the primary instrument landing system well into the 60s. Once ILS became fully tested and system improvements made it feasible, it then replaced GCA and reduced the requirments for PAR. The old unit that was featured in the clip was the original GCA unit designated as the AN/MPN-1. It was improved and replaced by a better AN/CPN-4 and it was also replaced by the AN/MPN-11. During early testing of the ILS in the states it was set up at Stout Field in Indianapolis, IN and was referred to as the Indianapolis Glide Path System. The early GCA required four operators in the unit. There were two PPI scopes, a Final Controller, and the operator of the Azimuth and Elevation servo antennas.
That's our history lesson for today....Class dismissed ;D
Jesse
P.S. as a side note, the GCA unit was manufactured in California by a company called Gilfillan Brothers. They originally built refrigerators and small home type radios.
JC
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Post by Johan Dees on Feb 20, 2009 11:05:10 GMT -5
Thank you.. thank you very much..  (you know who said this) |
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Feb 20, 2009 11:22:07 GMT -5
Hey, hand over that peanut butter, honey, and banana sandwich. Thank you, thank you very much.  |
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Post by jesse on Feb 20, 2009 11:27:34 GMT -5
Thank you.. thank you very much.. (you know who said this) I'll have to admit....I'm not sure but if I had to guess I would say it was probably 'Homer Simpson'. I'm not much of a TV fan....except for old Turner Classic Movies. Jesse |
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Post by Johan Dees on Feb 20, 2009 16:01:20 GMT -5
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Post by Johan Dees on Feb 20, 2009 16:02:46 GMT -5
ROFLMAO!!
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Post by sunny9850 on Feb 22, 2009 23:38:56 GMT -5
Elvis has left the building...... I was only 9 years old when Elvis died, but as a musician I always liked his style and will freely admit to having "scored" a few times playing his songs on stage or on the beach with just my guitar  I also distinctly remember my mom being very upset and sad the day he died and not quite understanding how she and so many others could care so much that a single man in then far away USA had died. |
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Post by qxtoolman on Feb 23, 2009 3:09:44 GMT -5
Since we are on the subject, and not that far removed from the "Day the Music Died". Buddy Holly had he lived, I believe would have eclipsed Elvis as the "King". I know that may well know musicians, and experts of the Rock-n-Roll era hold the same beliefs. Now, We all know Elvis is alive, and is the greeter at Wal Mart in his hometown of Tupelo Mississippi.  BTW: Here is an update: Roy Orbison, Johnny Ray, Nat King Cole & Ray Charles, have indeed left the building..... Also "General Francisco Franco is still dead".... Now who remebers where that quote is from? |
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Post by Col7777 on Feb 23, 2009 3:29:01 GMT -5
Stefan,
I don't believe it, we share the same things again, I had I think every Buddy Holly record, including a few made about him after he died.
Do you remember one called 'Three Stars' by Ruby Wright, I lost that but later got a copy of it of the Net, not the original record I'm afraid.
Three Stars are obviously Buddy, The Big Bopper & Richie Valens, who died when the Beechcraft crashed that cold February morning.
The 'Big O' Roy Orbison, what a voice. I have some of his records plus I have a few clips of him saved from YouTube.
There a many others too, some might think of them as just old rockers, but how many times do you hear of artists today singing their songs and/or being influenced by them.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Feb 23, 2009 12:15:22 GMT -5
"General Francisco Franco is still valiantly clinging to death" - part of the News sketches by the Not Ready for Prime Time Players on SNL. One of their funniest bits, if a bit gruesome... Another memorable (and gruesome) sketch: Julia Child - "I've cut the dickens out of my hand"... There is a Roy Orbison special on PBS during pledge breaks - I try not to miss it. |
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Post by sunny9850 on Feb 23, 2009 21:36:27 GMT -5
Buddy, Roy and I'll have to add Nat King Cole in that mix....all of them lightyears better than any of the stuff that is being passed for music these days ( few rare exceptions are of course possible ) |
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Post by qxtoolman on Feb 24, 2009 1:38:30 GMT -5
"General Francisco Franco is still valiantly clinging to death" - part of the News sketches by the Not Ready for Prime Time Players on SNL. One of their funniest bits, if a bit gruesome... Another memorable (and gruesome) sketch: Julia Child - "I've cut the dickens out of my hand"... There is a Roy Orbison special on PBS during pledge breaks - I try not to miss it. Excellent Tom..... Yes that was from the very first SNL Weekend Update and Chevy Chase was the anchor. I will admit that although the very first "Not ready for Prime Time Players" were very funny, I always thought that the early "Second City TV" group was funnier. (John Candy, Eugene Levy, Harold Ramis, Dave Thomas, Kathleen O'Hara, Joe Flaherty, Andrea Martin, Rick Moranis, & Martin Short.) Now I probably saw more of them because of where I lived because they were on the CBC long before NBC showed them here in the States. Kind of like my other hero "Red Green". I am also the only member here at Cal Classic that was a member of the "Great White North" with the Mckenzie Brothers fan club. "Now Fly-Off Ya Hosers!' "Back Bacon & Beer Aeh?..  This bit will be on Thursday at 9:00pm on SCTV, "A Johnny LaRue production..." We are strange old bunch, are we not?? |
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This bit will be on Thursday at 9:00pm on SCTV, "A Johnny LaRue production..."