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Post by aspen31 on Feb 25, 2009 14:27:34 GMT -5
Hi all
I have been adding some AI aircraft to FS9 and one is a Grumman Goose. It was selected from my flyable aircraft so is fully functional. I had trouble initially getting it to appear but worked most problems out and it now works fine. I have noticed howver that it moves around with the gear always retracted although it works as normal when I fly it. Anyone know if there might be a fix?
Thanks
Warren
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Post by Col7777 on Feb 25, 2009 14:42:23 GMT -5
I don't think so Warren, we have had this discussion before.
There is no way to get an ai to recognise it is landing on water so it keeps it's gear up.
That is the problem with amphibians, what i do is to keep that particular model for water only, I altered the contact points so when it is on the water is is laying low so you don't see the wheels.
It looks a bit funny on landing and taking off but it only lasts for seconds.
I'm not sure if there is a water only Goose out there, I tend to leave them alone and stick to sea planes as they don't have landing gear.
Mike Stone made a PBY Catalina for water only if you want to try that sometime.
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Post by Willy on Feb 25, 2009 14:51:48 GMT -5
When Bill Lyons did his Classic Goose pack, there's a couple of AI Gooses (Geese?) included. I believe one is for landing on land and the other for landing on water. As for which one is which, I never got that far with them as I just used the Mike Stone Goose for AI and always landing on land.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Feb 25, 2009 15:09:25 GMT -5
Hi,
The Goose in my AI pack is the Bill Lyons version that keeps it's wheels up. Warren's problem sounds like just the opposite - he wants a Goose that will lower its gear when landing.
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Post by Col7777 on Feb 25, 2009 15:32:40 GMT -5
Yes, you are right Tom, I didn't read the post properly.
It looks like it may be one of the Bill Lyons aircraft, I didn't know he had done two types.
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Post by aspen31 on Feb 25, 2009 15:54:56 GMT -5
Hi again all
To be honest it took so long to get the thing to show up that I forget which specific Goose this is. Thanks to everyone so far and -- correct -- this Goose taxis around and flies with the gear up -- smoothly I might add but still ... I hate to even contemplate an attempt at placing it at a seaplane base but perhaps I'll have to have a go. Lots of choice here in the Adirondacks -- just white and solid right now.
Warren
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Feb 25, 2009 16:07:30 GMT -5
Hi,
Yes, the other version (he packs two AI versions) has the gear that comes down. The flyable version should also have gear that extends on landing.
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Post by Col7777 on Mar 5, 2009 13:51:20 GMT -5
I'm glad this thread came about, as I said I never knew Bill had done an ai Goose, any way I downloaded it and I tried it out this afternoon, I made a simple return flightplan and it flies great.
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Post by jaymom on Mar 10, 2009 12:41:56 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure I have downloaded every Goose Bill Lyons has put out and I have never seen one where the landing gear does not come down. I sure wish I had one for my UK scenery I'm working on. I need a Goose for water only. Any idea of where it can be found or am I misunderstand this thread?
Harold
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Post by Dennis the menace on Mar 10, 2009 13:50:18 GMT -5
Why don't you try emailing Bill Lyons and explain what it is to him that you want. Since all you want is the landing gear off and the doors in the closed position, it shouldn't be too hard to modify this model. If Bill Lyons does not have the time to do it, ask him for the model and modify it yourself, or ask somebody here on the forum to help you if your not familiar with how to do it. Just make sure when you ask him, be nice about it, and make sure you tell him you will give him full credit for the model. This is what Tom did for numerous models for our AI.
cheers,
Mike
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Post by Col7777 on Mar 10, 2009 14:48:03 GMT -5
The Goose with the landing gear up is in his Goose package, that is the one I used.
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Post by johnfromoz on Mar 10, 2009 19:37:24 GMT -5
Jaymom, I suspect you are thinking about the flyable version in Bill's Goose package (I think he only did one pack, all the rest are other people's paints).
The package is based on the TV series "Tales of the Gold Monkey" (though it includes a variety of paints), and for that reason, in true Lyons fashion, the flights which come with it have an element of fun. You can be first to spot a secret Japanese island base and get intercepted by a pair of AI Zeroes, or you can meet the Hawaii Clipper, etc.
Among it all are AI Zeroes, Clippers, submarines and Gooses/Geese, including the likes of Avalon Air Transport liveries. These are in two versions, land and water. I am not home now but the AI for the Goose pack appear in your aircraft folder with names like "cgzero", "cgryan", "cgg21f" and "cgg21w". (and as I said, I am not sure about those names, but I think I am close).
The AI Goose is in the cgg21.. folders. The "f" version is "float" and the "w" version is "wheels", I believe.
From memory, any paints for the flyable aircraft can be used for the AI version - you can remove the superflous textures by comparing one of the existing AI texture folders.
Bill retired some time ago - to the regret of fans, but he has well and truly earned it. The good thing (if there is a silver lining) about Microsoft sloughing off ACES and future versions of FS is that all Bill's good work will remain useful for much longer.
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Post by Col7777 on Mar 11, 2009 5:16:09 GMT -5
Thanks John,
I wasn't very clear in my post but you are correct the 'f' for floats a 'w' for wheels, you are also correct about the paints, I wasn't sure at first so I tried it, I downloaded a paint for the standard Goose and it worked on the ai version.
Col.
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