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Post by ozbeowulf on Mar 16, 2009 6:59:35 GMT -5
Just to let it be known I finally wrapped up the propliner-based 1943 ATC Southern Atlantic Route scenery package. Uploaded to AVSim and FlightSim, so it should be available in a day or two. The file name is ATC43.zip. The Air Transport Command was. for the most part, civilian pilots flying civilian airliners with military paint jobs. Definitely propliners in olive drab. The ramp at Amapa, Brazil, one of the smaller auxiliary fields...  Accra, Ghana...  and Ascension Island...  These screenshots show AI traffic at full bore, but there are three settings to allow for different taste and computer systems. There are fifteen AFCADs from Florida to South America and Africa, briefing notes, "aerial photos" and 1943-style approach charts for each field. Many of the scenery objects are CalClassic items already in all of our computers. John Stinstrom kindly supplied a library of vintage vehicles that fit right in. Cheers, Glenn |
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Post by chris_c on Mar 16, 2009 9:08:36 GMT -5
Downloading now, it's up at AVSIM already. This looks like a good reason to take the Stratoliner exploring. Many Thanks, Glenn.
Chris
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Post by Radio Ranger on Mar 16, 2009 9:16:53 GMT -5
WOW.
I just picked up a used book while browsing in a bookshop in Ocean City Maryland. It is called "Over the Hump" and was authored by General William Tunner. Tunner was the third officer 'hired' by the fledgling US Army Air Corps Ferrying Command, the predecessor of the Air Transport Command. He is the man in charge of creating the routes and infrastructure supporting (among other things) Hump Flying and the Berlin Airlift.
I'm only 40 pages into the book, but I am now off to download this package so I can follow along with General Tunner's adventures.
Al
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Mar 16, 2009 9:41:18 GMT -5
Hi,
Thanks, Glenn. Looks like a great package.
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Post by chris_c on Mar 16, 2009 11:02:39 GMT -5
This is really an outstanding scenery addon, I installed into my FS Golden Wings installation and noted some visual anomalies that I suspect are related to GW3 and the changes it makes to FS9.
Specifically:
1. Most of your ramps and taxi-ways are missing, I suspect that is because the default FSGW3 ramp textures are disabled and so this effect was anticipated even before I installed ATC43. There are some present however, like at GORF. Haven't figured out why ramps at some but not at others yet. Different textures?
2. SBRF Recife, is missing entirely, it looks like the GW3 exclude file might be excluding the new airfield as well as the FS9 default field.
3. The runway at FHAW Ascension Island is truncated and there is a huge rock that dominates the North end of the strip. I don't know where this comes from, had never visited there before today...
I am going to mess around in GW3 and see if I can develop some answers, am pretty sure that these are probably just some texture and .bgl incompatibilities caused by Golden Wings. All told, the issues are very minor and do not really detract from Glenn's great new scenery IMO.
P.S.
Another possibility of course is that I completely messed up the install and will keep that on the table unless or until somebody else notices similar effects with ATC43 in GW3.
Chris
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Post by Col7777 on Mar 16, 2009 11:05:53 GMT -5
Downloaded and just gave it a quick coat of looking at, you did good Glen.  It is a great package, even got the old military vehicles dotted around to add to the atmosphere, thank you very much Glen, I like it. |
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Post by eddiejez on Mar 16, 2009 13:56:51 GMT -5
Hi Glen wow that looks cool! rgds Edd  |
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Post by Willy on Mar 16, 2009 13:59:41 GMT -5
Chris, I strongly suspect that your missing bits are definitely Golden Wings related. I've got GW, but will probably install ATC 43 into Silver Wings instead as I'm currently reworking FS 1954 using SW as a basis.
I've been thinking about a distance flight in the Stratoliner myself starting at KMEM and heading to a South Atlantic crossing. ATC 43 should work out very well for that.
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Post by chris_c on Mar 16, 2009 14:48:00 GMT -5
I'm certain that it's GW3 related, installed ATC43 into Silver Wings and all functions as advertised so far.
This should get an award of some type, what an excellent addition to any prop fan's FS universe. Thank you again, Glenn.
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Post by Harry on Mar 16, 2009 15:09:50 GMT -5
Hi, Just installed the scenery. I like it, It's very nice Thank you very much. I would like to use the vintage cars of John Stinstrom in my new sceneries. Harry |
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Post by ozbeowulf on Mar 16, 2009 16:04:50 GMT -5
Chris_c... I, too, am almost certain that GW3 is blocking the ramps, etc. Silver Wings or FS9 would be more amenable, methinks. As for the high hill at Ascension Island, that is actually there in the real world. I admit that's a pretty ugly looking "rock" but that was the best I could do using modified standard scenery objects. (I have to expand my scenery horizons.) Nevertheless, the top of the hill in the scenery coincides exactly with the spot height altitude shown on the real world FHAW approach plate. There are actually two hills beside that runway, one smaller than the other. I ignored the small one that you can make out in this more modern photo...  As for runway length, the standard USAAF runway in WWII was 6,000', occasionally 7,000'. Late in the war, some Pacific runways stretched out to 9,000' to accomodate the B-29s. The Wideawake field runway was lengthened in the mid-1960s, according to my research. Harry.... John Stinstrom's vehicles were originally included in his "World War II Naval Air Station" scenery package. When I asked him for permission to include them, he very kindly separated the vehicles and sent them to me. You should contact John to get permission to upload them in any scenery you create. They are great value, though. Many thanks for the kind words from all. I hope you have as much fun flying it as I had building it. Glenn |
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Post by Harry on Mar 17, 2009 7:48:45 GMT -5
Hi glenn,
I shall contact John Stinstrom to get permission.
Harry
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Post by jesse on Mar 17, 2009 8:36:08 GMT -5
8-)I think the Ascension Island bit was cool. The British owned island was one of our main tracking stations that NASA ran during the early days of the Manned Space Flight Program. I made several trips to the island and the only really disagreeable thing I found was the 'cinder golf course'. Not much grass on the place. ;D
Jesse
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Post by Mike on Mar 17, 2009 10:32:38 GMT -5
Nice one Glenn, and well timed for me. I've recently finished reading "Fate is the Hunter" so this kind of brings that to life.
To Jesse - re the cinder golf courses - then you'd love a lot of the courses we have here in country Western Australia. The "greens" are made from sand that looks like it's been soaked in old sump oil, and they play really slo-o-o-o-wly. ;D Not much rain here, either!!
Cheers,
Mike
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Post by johnl on Mar 17, 2009 11:48:23 GMT -5
Great scenery package - may thanks.
re golf in Oz: The Daley Waters Pub used to have the 1st tee of the "Daley Waters Golf Course" nearby, and "kindly locals" would point out the direction of the green for the benefit of visitors who'd unloaded their clubs for a round. The "kindly locals" would then retire to the bar to speculate on how long it would take the visitors to realise that the 1st tee was the only bit of the golf course which existed!
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