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Post by jacklyon on Jul 15, 2014 13:09:24 GMT -5
Thanks john, so we start to have a lot of pictures and information . It's good! i hope voluntary people will show, to take one (or more), airports, and make it For my part, i would like to do "Ezeiza (Buenos Aires)", after finalize all my currents projects (i can't say when i will finalize all my currents project and start to work on Ezeiza so if someone want to start to work on Ezeiza before me, no problem, just tell here) Cheers Alejandro
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Post by infiniti on Jul 17, 2014 15:48:43 GMT -5
SVMI Terminal progress.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jul 17, 2014 19:54:42 GMT -5
That will be nice to be able to fly into Caracas with a real classic airport there - although it's not in Caracas...
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Post by infiniti on Jul 17, 2014 20:15:29 GMT -5
That will be nice to be able to fly into Caracas with a real classic airport there - although it's not in Caracas... Its just over the mountain and through the woods to Simón Bolívar International Airport we go. Once I'm done with SVMI, expect La Carlota, the airport actually within Caracas city limits, to follow.
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Post by jwh on Jul 17, 2014 22:59:51 GMT -5
Have been through all of my old Jepessen manuals and can't locate any charts for La Carlota. Was there any other name that it could be under?
John
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Post by jwh on Jul 18, 2014 6:25:35 GMT -5
Have uploaded 1963 charts for Port-Au-Prince along with various photos of the airport to my Flickr page. Link to the page is below: www.flickr.com/photos/12530375@N08/One thing I did find out while looking around the Net is that the current airport was built in 1965 being named Francois Duvalier Airport. It looks to have replaced Bowen Field and you can see a small difference in the alignment of the runway. Feel the earlier airport would make a far more interesting scenery project with that lovely old terminal. John
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jul 18, 2014 10:01:28 GMT -5
Hi John,
These are great pictures and valuable research work. Thanks so much!
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Post by Juan Martinez on Jul 18, 2014 10:08:40 GMT -5
Wow John. You have achieved a good collection of old photos and airport scans that certainly will help on this project.....and being honest, you have helped us *a lot* on other projects..a big effort indeed. ****** OK people....I have reviewed John's scans for Ecuador major airports (Quito & Guayaquil), searched on the AI traffic files to see what other airports are serviced by regular airlines and just found 5, looked at them on google and at least 3 of them have terminals that seem they haven't changed in years, nothing difficult at all....so I would like to work on whole Ecuador... ***** Peru has not been mentioned on this thread.....I haven't made any further airport research there, but I'll would like to make a little contribution I made the Lima-Callao scenery about 2 years ago and I made it "1965" because the websites I used to source for data were not accurate at all....while some of them say this airport opened in 1965, other mention that it really opened in 1960 with a temporary (and rudimentary) terminal, and the terminal I depict in my scenery was completed and opened to public in 1965.... other website states that the airport *had to open* in 1960 to accomodate Panagra's and other international airlines flying DC-8 & 707's, while airlines still flying props operated at Limatambo, that means 2 airports operating simultaneously. I was thinking about activating the old Limatambo airport (included in my scenery) fully functional in a 1960 mod...and make the Lima-Callao on a construction mod....user will have to use the 1959 traffic for that effect since the 1962 traffic has jets from Panagra, Braniff, Pan Am, and KLM-Viasa. Any further ideas?? Here's a screenshot of the Limatambo terminal I took months ago, but posted on another forum....
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jul 18, 2014 12:16:50 GMT -5
Well, since John has an approach chart for Limatambo dated September of 1962, it certainly did not close in 1960 as is stated on Wikipedia. www.flickr.com/photos/12530375@N08/6486070331/sizes/lHowever, no airlines are listed in space below the diagram, suggesting that all airlines had already moved to Callao. It also states that the runway and taxiways were extremely rough, as if it was no longer maintained. Finally, there were no lights at the airport by then. The last crash involving Limatambo was in 1959, so that's no help. Lima-Callao did apparently open in 1960, however: www.lima-lim.airports-guides.com/lim_history.htmlSo I would assume that in 1959 all aircraft used Limatambo, and in 1962 both airports were operating, but with all airline traffic at Callao.
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Post by Juan Martinez on Jul 18, 2014 12:44:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the research Tom. Here's an interesting translation from a website (wikipedia link also), originally on spanish.....suggests that at some point both airports were operating simultaneously. "On October 30, 1960 the Lima-Callao International Airport opened with temporary facilities to meet the demand of international air traffic and partly national, because the Limatambo Airport was still runing where some airlines still operated""The Lima-Callao International Airport with temporary facilities"***** I think the best deal is to activate Limatambo "just before" October 1960
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Jul 18, 2014 13:12:51 GMT -5
Yes, I think that both airports had airline traffic in 1960, but sometime before 1962 they had all moved over to Callao.
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Post by jwh on Jul 19, 2014 19:40:49 GMT -5
Along with the old charts I have, it is really enjoyable looking around the Net for relevant photos etc. I guess one of the pleasures of being retired is that I now have plenty of time and anything I can do to help those who have the skill to create the scenery I am most happy to do. Hopefully it will save some time for those creators who still have to do their day job and that they can concentrate on the scenery. It is amazing just how easy it is to get distracted with all of the links that arise from various sites and I've learned some pretty interesting facts about vintage Central and South American Aviation over the last few weeks. There is some fascinating reading there. Just to show how things have changed so much, I came across a photo of a young boy at the bottom of the steps of, I think, a Panagra DC-6 having just disembarked and he has a large toy cowboy pistol in his hand. What a no no today. Here in Brisbane I am a member of the Eagle Farm Aviation Society which is trying to save the last WW2 hanger at the old Brisbane Airport called "Hangar 7". All of the other buildings have long gone. The hangar was built as a temporary structure by the USAAC in 1942 and being a complete timber truss building was only expected to last a couple of years. Seventy years later it is still standing. The particular historical significance of the building is that it was used to assemble captured Japanese fighters from wrecks recovered in the Islands north of Australia, mainly the Zero, Oscar and Tony, and then they were test flown over Brisbane against Allied fighters to work out the best tactics to combat them. Link to our page is www.hanger7.org.auOne of our members has a massive aviation archive, and when I say massive, it has to be seen to be believed. He is retired and naturally a bachelor. No lady could live with what he has. It includes amongst others, complete bound volumes of Flight International from 1909 up to the 70s. Over the next couple of weeks he is going to pick out all that he can find on Central and South America for me to scan with my hand held scanner, so hopefully we'll find some new material to help with the scenery creation. One book he does have is a 1940 publication just called "Airports" which has a heap of helpful material on original airport layouts and photos. I'll ask him if I can borrow it and scan it properly. Know it will be of great assistance. Am away for a week from tomorrow, but will get back into it all when I return. John
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Post by jwh on Jul 20, 2014 3:44:59 GMT -5
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Post by jwh on Jul 20, 2014 6:22:39 GMT -5
Have re uploaded 1963 charts for Seawell Airport, Bridgetown, Barbados along with various pics from over the years of the airport to my Flickr page. Link to the page is below: www.flickr.com/photos/12530375@N08/Plus have added other various pics relevant to Central and South America and further finds for Limatambo. In the Limatambo set there are two shots of a Panagra DC-2 in front of a terminal marked just 'Lima', but it is a different style of building to others that have been found from that era with 'Limatambo' on the facade. Perhaps someone can confirm if it is another part of Limatambo, maybe the very first building from when the airport opened. From what I have seen from the mid thirties pics, there was only one airport for Lima that would accept DC-2s and DC-3s. John
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Post by jacklyon on Jul 23, 2014 22:34:13 GMT -5
thanks thanks for you efforts the most dificult part
its not to build nice vintage scenery but to found enough material to make it historically OK
i m feeling optimistic about this huge project that begins....
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