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Post by pilotgod on Aug 21, 2009 18:25:02 GMT -5
Reading some different discussions here got me thinking about what are the funnest approaches to fly in Flight Sim. Below is my list that I enjoy, please feel free to add to it as you may fly one that others have been missing out on. Now, my list is primarily current approaches, so the propliner age is sorely missing, but flying them is fun all the same. I know there are lists out there for difficult or dangerous approaches, but sometimes the fun ones aren't really hard or dangerous. Please share. My list: Kai Tak (Hong Kong) 13L IGS approach JFK (New York) Parkway Visual JFK (New York) VOR or GPS 13L/R Reagan (Washington, D.C.) River Visual 19 Reagan (Washington, D.C.) RNAV (RNP) Rwy 19...requires GPS, and is unique in that it is rare to have turns after the FAF (Final Approach Fix) Aspen-Pitkin Co. (Aspen, CO) VOR/DME...a localizer you fly as back course on the missed approach. Palm Springs (Palm Springs, CA) any approach, they're all a blast. Lihue (Lihue, HI) ILS Rwy 35 approach. With good scenery, you pass a nice lighthouse off your wing. For a real treat, try to fly the approach to a circle to land rwy 21 over the bay. Don't get fast. Lukla (Lukla, Nepal) just a fun STOL runway, not getting a Connie in there. San Rafael (San Rafeal, Peru), the highest airport in Flight Sim...hope you understand density altitude. Santos Dumont (Rio de Janeiro) Land on Rwy 02...watch out for Sugar Loaf! London City Airport (London, UK) Rwy 9 Madeira (Funchal, Portugal) Rwy 5 Princess Juliana (Saint Maarten, Dutch Antilles) either runway is a challenge. Not a "fun" approach, in fact rather run of the mill, but the fix names always make me laugh. RNAV GPS Rwy 16 at Portsmouth, NH also known as the "Tweety Bird" approach. www.airnav.com/depart?http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0908/00678R16.PDF |
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Post by robertorizzo on Aug 22, 2009 12:45:50 GMT -5
I may add: KLGA Expressway Visual RWY 31 (using RWY04 ILS then a right turn to hdg 80 then turn left just around Shea Stadium to RWY 31) Saba Island (with a STOL) Tegucigalpa RWY 02 have a look at www.simtours.net/difficultapproaches.php |
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Post by Maarten on Aug 22, 2009 14:06:31 GMT -5
Don't forget Bronson Creek! ;D
Cheers,
Maarten
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Post by ashaman on Aug 22, 2009 21:31:05 GMT -5
I invite you trying LICR Runway 13. We call it "The Italian Kai Tak". ;D
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Post by chris_c on Aug 22, 2009 23:45:30 GMT -5
Castlegar, British Columbia CYCG. In the early 60's Canadian Pacific flew into here using DC-6B's. Quote: The airport is therefore certified for day operations only, and the glideslope on approach is set to a steep 5% rather than the standard 2.5%. The instrument approaches to Castlegar are considered among the most challenging of any in use at a commercial airport in North America. End quote. The Castlegar approach plates can be found here, starting on page 34: www.czvr.ca/_Pilot_Resources/_Charts/PDF/CAP2BC/cap2BCocr.pdfChris Edited to add URL |
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Post by ashaman on Aug 23, 2009 12:40:58 GMT -5
Castlegar, British Columbia CYCG. In the early 60's Canadian Pacific flew into here using DC-6B's. Quote: The airport is therefore certified for day operations only, and the glideslope on approach is set to a steep 5% rather than the standard 2.5%. The instrument approaches to Castlegar are considered among the most challenging of any in use at a commercial airport in North America. End quote. Castlegar... oh yeah... remember that airport. Last year in a tour that brought my VA from Anchorage to Ushuaia in Constellation ( and that would last 8 months of weekly flights), we made a stop there.  One of the toughest nuts to crack above the equator, for sure, yet a great place where to land as well.  |
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Post by herkpilot on Aug 23, 2009 21:10:37 GMT -5
Don't forget Paro International Bhutan (VQPR), the ultimate challenge. This is the only airport in the country. Its at 7,333 msl with surrounding peaks to 18,000 + msl. Check out this You-tube of a Druk Air (national carrier) Airbus approach and landing. www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhEKl4anJkU there are several more videos linked from this. Also some interesting links at Wikipedia. I've tried several different A/C in FS (Dash 7, F-27, BAE 146) and crash about 40% of the time. Due to Altitude and terrain you almost have to use turbine power. There is add on scenery available at the usual places. Hy |
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Post by Dennis the menace on Aug 24, 2009 1:06:49 GMT -5
I would say Tempelhof runway 27 without a doubt. First you have fly low and slow through a narrow corridor, then fly into westberlin, then due east into Berlin (east), make a sharp 180 degree turn all the while not leaving Berlin (east) airspace. Once that has happened, you must descend very quickly to get on the glideslope into Tempelhof. While this is going on, they are shining mirrors into the cockpit during the day, and shooting flares at you at night, and sometimes buzzing your wingtips with Migs. Once over the westberlin border you drop like a rock, descend right through rows of apartments, and hopefully land at Tempelhof.
I did this many times with Pan Am in the early 1980s in 727s. The plane would make a very sharp 180 turn, at the same time descending rapidly. It was always fun to hear first time flyers gasp. Many times, objects would fall out of the overhead bins as the plane banked.
Kai Tak is another real winner, as is San Diego coming in over those parking garages.
Mike
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Post by johnl on Aug 24, 2009 11:47:20 GMT -5
The thought of Castlegar in a DC-6 or a Connie is definitely scarey!  The over-the-hill approach into TFFJ St Barthelmy runway 10 is worth getting to know, but if you want a pair of entertaining approaches linked by spectacular valley flying try OPGT Gilgit - OPSD Skardu. (preferably with Einar Aarvik's kashmir9.zip scenery if you fly FS9 - it's on flightsim.com). |
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Post by ashaman on Aug 25, 2009 9:38:23 GMT -5
The thought of Castlegar in a DC-6 or a Connie is definitely scarey! I did that approach in the old FSDZigns L-049, in complete, anarchic VFR ( visibility was good and I studied the approach before attempting it), partially circumnavigating the hill almost in front of the runway for a tranquil straight in approach. Others of my VA, the less sane ones, attempted a bombing dive from above said hill, slowing down first to almost stall speed, using max flaps and dropping the landing gear as a airbrake... not all of them managing to slow down in time and having to go around, and almost all those of the bombing dive who could land at first try admitted ( more like boasted) to having used dirty tricks, like feathering two of the four engines in descent and/or using cross-controls to slow down and descent. ;D It was a complete and utter chaos, that approach, that evening. Funny as hell. |
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Post by chris_c on Aug 25, 2009 11:45:13 GMT -5
I have managed to do it cleanly in both DC-3's and a Convair 240 circling the hill as well but have not succeeded with a DC-6B as yet. Last time trying, after going missed three times just carried on to Cranbrook figuring the pax could bus to Castlegar. It's a pretty drive but sometimes hairy in the winter or at night.
Chris
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Post by pilotgod on Aug 26, 2009 11:06:48 GMT -5
Thanks, guys. I'd never heard of the Castlegar approach, definitely a challenge. Keep the suggestions coming.
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Post by Johan Dees on Aug 29, 2009 18:15:29 GMT -5
I invite you trying LICR Runway 13. We call it " The Italian Kai Tak". ;D Any scenery ? |
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Post by ashaman on Aug 29, 2009 19:07:23 GMT -5
I invite you trying LICR Runway 13. We call it " The Italian Kai Tak". ;D Any scenery ? Yes. For starters, I have to apologize. The infamous LICR approach is on runway 33... have to really stop comparing those two airports, I make only confusion between rwy 13 and 33.  As for an add-on scenery, nothing beats this freeware: fafylela.altervista.org/  Only problem for English-only speaking/reading people... the site is completely in Italian.  Enter in the download section and there you have to register, and then a user-id and password will be sent to your email for you to log in and download the scenery freely. Don't worry, the site is clean and there is no duplicity, I don't know why the author decided to use this kind of download, but I and a lot of other people have downloaded that scenery and never had problems. |
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Post by Johan Dees on Sept 1, 2009 10:01:53 GMT -5
Got it!, and good!, especially in dark or IMC!
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