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Post by stumpy on Dec 28, 2009 21:31:12 GMT -5
Hii folks I was surfing around a few weeks ago, and i found this new beauty, the brand new Tupolev Tu-104, the world second jet.  The model is absolutely stunning, great detail and the flight dynamic is also very realistic, but, there is one problem... the Flight manual is all in russian and there is no way to translate because they protected the PDF. When you loaded the aircraft in FS you caught always a cold start, so you needed to know how to bring this baby to live, and all panel is in russian. well i tried this and that till i got the procedure. Two week later and i got a total control of the airplane... Today... i made the first flight from Moscow to Prague according to standard aeroflot flight plan. If some one is interested, the link to the download is: www.avsim.su/f/fs2004-originalnie-samoleti-40/legendarniy-layner-tu-104-v-0-91-25499.htmlCheers ;D LUIS |
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Post by ashaman on Dec 28, 2009 23:17:27 GMT -5
A common problem to every russian plane I've ever met ( beside a sole one, under X-plane, an AN14... or 12... can't remember, that had a switch to select between serigraphs and instructions in russian OR english, but that had other problems), they are beautiful birds, sometimes made in a outstanding way, but the incomprehensible panels pretty much make them unusable to someone not knowing the language.  |
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Post by ejoiner on Dec 29, 2009 10:18:23 GMT -5
I agree. I'd LOVE to be able to fly the russian airplanes but the non english panels make that impossible.
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Post by capflyer on Dec 29, 2009 11:24:55 GMT -5
Well, if anyone around here can read Russian and give me the translation, I can do a " P-Touch" conversion of the panels. This is what I started to do for the Yak-18T, and what you do in real life when you don't have the time or money for English covers to be made.  |
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Post by ashaman on Dec 29, 2009 14:12:51 GMT -5
Well, if anyone around here can read Russian and give me the translation, I can do a " P-Touch" conversion of the panels. This is what I started to do for the Yak-18T, and what you do in real life when you don't have the time or money for English covers to be made. We all would be grateful, but check first with the plane's designers if you can do that and then share it. You know, if you do a mod like that or even something way more radical only for yourself, NO ONE can stop you, but if you plan to sharing it... things may get hairy with the people who made the plane, especially if you do not warn them. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2009 18:16:49 GMT -5
I've been flying the Tu-104 for a few weeks too and it's a great aircraft to fly... even if it is a... a... a... a jet. (now, go and wash my mouth out) ;D The russian panels put me off trying the aircraft available at www.avsimrus.com but there are so many great aircraft available that eventually I just had to try them. I agree that the panels are difficult to understand but with patience, experimentation and a little guesswork you can get used to them pretty quickly. The biggest problem I have apart from the language is trying to remember that the instruments are metric. |
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Post by ashaman on Dec 30, 2009 11:26:02 GMT -5
The biggest problem I have apart from the language is trying to remember that the instruments are metric. Being italian, and having had the metric system given to me together with the milk when a toddler, I find the biggest problem just being the other.  |
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Post by capflyer on Dec 30, 2009 17:16:29 GMT -5
Well swapping for an English Altimeter, VSI, and Airspeed isn't a major thing (and is required for US Certification of former Soviet/Russian aircraft here ), so I can do that too. Of course I'll get the author's permission before making the modifications, that's just kinda understood. |
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Post by jesse on Dec 30, 2009 17:59:32 GMT -5
you may be able to translate the text by using babelfish. I don't know for sure if it is even still on the web.
Jesse
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Post by railrunner130 on Dec 30, 2009 18:48:52 GMT -5
Babelfish is still there. I used it to look at that website, although somehow I found a "backdoor" google translated version later.
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Post by Ricardo Miranda on Dec 30, 2009 20:56:26 GMT -5
Hi! Luis Thanks for showing us this beautiful aircraft! I haven't been around the PT Forum for sometime, so it was the true admiration that I saw this one!  Finally we have this classic aircraft in FS9! The model I used before was for FS2002 and somewhat converted to FS9! How to fly this aircraft: 1- No need to go and learn Russian! I don't know much of it, what I do is recognise switches and dials that are similar with other panels! ;D 2- Get hold of the TU-124 from Sandim as it comes with an ENGLISH Manual and the panel is very, very similar! Here: samdimdesign.free.fr/3- As you are there you can also get hold of the AN-24RV! It is a turboprop and at least has propellers and it is a beauty! Also comes with a full manual in English! 4-At the bottom of the TU-154B2 English Manual there is this sentence: "A Tupolev Captain was not made in one day!" So practice is needed! BTW, this TU-104 panel has many tool tips in English, although I struggled with the engine start as it is different: no need to engage the Turbostart cold devices! Here is what the panel looks at FL320 Mach 0.81:   Soft Landings! |
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Post by jazz5 on Dec 30, 2009 23:08:36 GMT -5
you might find some usefull info here www.protu-154.net/forum/After the Tu-104 and the Tu-124 try the Tu-134B (great sim also) When you go here samdimdesign.free.fr/ look under the picture of the An-24 and click "documentation" to learn everything about the navigation equipment and RSBN navigation. Once you have mastered all the above you're ready for the beast: the AN-22 (also available there) (errr.........sorry Ravilamir, saw your post too late) cheers Jazz |
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Post by Ricardo Miranda on Dec 30, 2009 23:32:15 GMT -5
Hi! That's OK! Thanks for posting the link to the PT Forum! It has a section in English for all these aircraft, especially a room for the TU-104, TU-124 and TU-134. There isn't much in there specifically for this model, but much of the instrumentation has been employed in other models. So, the manuals and discussion there for other models are useful for this one! Enjoy them! And Happy New Year! Soft Landings! |
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Post by stumpy on Dec 31, 2009 12:11:03 GMT -5
Hii folks!!! ;D I have a little doubt about something... in all the russian aircrafts you have to ways of turning on the navigations lights. One the lights are on permanently; other they are flashing like strobe lights. When you should use one and when use other? Russian aircrafts flying on the west, how should they display their lights? Cheers LUIS |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 20:40:27 GMT -5
Hii folks!!! ;D I have a little doubt about something... in all the russian aircrafts you have to ways of turning on the navigations lights. One the lights are on permanently; other they are flashing like strobe lights. When you should use one and when use other? Russian aircrafts flying on the west, how should they display their lights? Cheers LUIS I use steady lights when on the ground and strobe when flying. Not sure if that's right, but I'd guess strobing lights when taxing etc. would be a distraction to other pilots. As for flying in the west, I'd guess the same would apply. I'm sure one of our more knowledgeable gentlemen will put us right |
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