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Post by dc6tryer on May 16, 2009 12:57:08 GMT -5
Hi, That looks stunning !! Andy.
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Post by capflyer on May 16, 2009 16:47:47 GMT -5
The different VC textures in the CV-340 are a test of Edd's textures - let me know which you like best. Here are the correct eyepoint lines (in the plane's aircraft.cfg file for the moment: CV-240: eyepoint=20.0, -1.85, 3.9 CV-340/440: eyepoint= 21.30, -1.85, 3.9 CV-580: already correct Tom, are you aware that the CV-580's VC is incorrectly positioned? I know you're showing that this line is correct, but the problem is that that line is 0,-1.75,0, on the model centerline. The other models (the 240, 340, and 440) have the VC in the same place on the external and VC models (about 20 feet ahead of the center of the model and a little above), but the 580 has the VC model referenced to 0,0,0 (the center of the aircraft model). This makes the view very disorienting. I didn't notice it until I started using AES with this aircraft and realized that the "ground crew" looked like he was standing 5 feet in front of the nose but was in fact standing next to the nose gear, behind the cockpit.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on May 16, 2009 16:53:16 GMT -5
Hi,
Thanks, guys - glad you like it.
The 580 was Greg's first model and it does have a few glitches. I don't have any plans to fix that at this time, but if I ever get around to redoing the VC please remind me and I'll fix that too.
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Post by capflyer on May 16, 2009 16:54:32 GMT -5
Would you be willing to redo the 580 VC with the other VC's that you're already doing? I think many of the improvements you're doing there would be greatly appreciated on the 580.
Also, if it's not too involved (I've never done any model work) I could probably do the repositioning of the VC for you. I would hope it would be just a matter of taking the data from the CV440 model VC position and copying it into the data for the CV580 model VC position in GMAX.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on May 16, 2009 18:44:20 GMT -5
Hi,
There are enough differences between the piston Convairs and the 580 that I would want to make sure I have the piston VC "final" before starting on the 580, and I plan on doing the DC-7's next so it would be after that anyway.
Actually, you have to drag the VC cockpit from its current position to the new (real) one. Then you have to reposition the "center point" (the "pivot") to 0,0,0. Then you have to enter new eyepoint and wing view values (using trial and error, mostly). You are welcome to the GMAX file (email me at tgibson at sunstroke dot sdsu dot edu), but there might be a few other things I would also do to bring the 580 up to the level of the 340 (although I don't know if it is missing anything else).
Hope this helps,
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Post by capflyer on May 16, 2009 18:48:04 GMT -5
Oh, a couple of more things that I've not seen mentioned that has me confused - is there something in the Notepad that wasn't updated for the CV-580? I'm seeing 2 problems - first MTOW on the notepad and the FDE don't match (54,600 on the notepad, 58,156 on the FDE). Second, the fuel in the notepad is acting wierd. It's showing much less fuel than is actually aboard. As of this moment I post, the fuel gauges are indicating ~6000 pounds of fuel aboard, but the notepad shows ~4200 pounds.
Any help on this?
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on May 16, 2009 21:42:47 GMT -5
Hi,
The fuel is indeed an error; I will upload a fixed version. I don't know what you mean about the MTOW - when I look at the FS fuel and payload menu (i.e. from the FDE) it shows 54,600 lbs as well.
Thanks,
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on May 16, 2009 21:49:48 GMT -5
Hi again,
Fixed version uploaded. Download and install again.
Hope this helps,
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Post by capflyer on May 16, 2009 22:45:44 GMT -5
Thanks Tom! My FDE shows the "Uprated" MTOW that was available for the aircraft but most operators apparently didn't use (after more reading of the FSAviator information). I know that Air Tahoma, SwiftAir, and IFL use(d) 58,156lb as the MTOW for their CV580F's, so I guess that was part of the Freighter conversion more than the VIP wet wing modification as FSAviator's notes state. The airframe had a lot of excess structural capacity in it as the USAF and USN operated all of their Samaritans and T-29's at much higher gross weights than were ever authorized by the FAA (and CAA before it). It was once noted that the T-29's MLW was higher than the CV-240's MTOW, but both have the same basic structure and landing gear - it was just a difference in certification.
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Post by tcreed on May 17, 2009 0:04:18 GMT -5
interesting to hear..the weight differences bewteen the T-29 and CV-240s...probably true with the C-118s and the DC-6Bs also..?? and YEAH...the DC-7 upgrade is next..!! thanks Tom..
rgds t.creed
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Post by Mike on May 17, 2009 5:34:01 GMT -5
Hi Tom,
That looks really good. Can't wait to try it out. And thanks very much for the radar gauge. It adds to the experience, I think.
Cheers, Mike
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Post by capflyer on May 17, 2009 9:13:55 GMT -5
interesting to hear..the weight differences bewteen the T-29 and CV-240s The T-29A/B and C-131A had an MTOW of 43,575 versus 40,500 for the CV-240 (eventually raised to 42,500). The C-131H/CC-107 had an MTOW of 57,000 versus the standard 54,600 for the CV-580. The C-131's based on the CV-340 and CV-440 had a MTOW of 47,000 pounds, the same as their civilian counterparts mainly because they were simply civilian aircraft delivered in military outfit. No special modifications were made to the aircraft other than an interior capable of handling litters on some aircraft.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on May 17, 2009 9:16:49 GMT -5
Hi,
If you have changed the MTOW in the aircraft.cfg file, then you need to open the 3 notepad gauges in the FS2004/Gauges/340 folder and edit the MTOW value found there.
One is called Notepad_CV58.xml; the two others are the same but have F and P in the filenames.
Just double click the XML file, and choose Wordpad to open the file. If it opens with something else and you can't edit with it, right click the file, choose Open With, and select Wordpad from the list. If not on the list, select Choose Program and find it on that list.
Change the 54600 number in the MTOW line to your new value. Be sure NOT to change anything else, and make a backup first.
The C-118's were really DC-6A's, with the typical CB-17 engines, ADI, Autofeather and higher weights.
Hope this helps,
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on May 17, 2009 12:33:00 GMT -5
Hi, Working on the night lighting. I thought I'd try something different, since the Convairs have an overhead light. I used the typical VC light to throw a soft glow around the cockpit, and then lit just the gauges: Not much more to do now before the beta...
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Post by stansdds on May 17, 2009 12:35:48 GMT -5
Wow!
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