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Post by rmarsh1 on Sept 3, 2010 20:17:25 GMT -5
Did I understand that these wonderful birds will not be FSX compatible? Oh darn... :-( Oh well, "life is hard".... Very nice work though...I may decide to rev up FS9 again.
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Post by burcham8 on Sept 3, 2010 23:19:05 GMT -5
WOW on all of this! Marc P.S. The T-29B in Calhoun, GA has the tail lopped off now.
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Post by stansdds on Sept 4, 2010 5:49:50 GMT -5
Yep, a bit disappointing that they won't be FSX compatible.
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Sept 4, 2010 10:30:19 GMT -5
I didn't understand that they are not be compatible with FSX - I just don't think they've been tested yet? Many FS2004 aircraft can be flown in FSX.
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simkarus
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Post by simkarus on Sept 5, 2010 3:26:55 GMT -5
I didn't understand that they are not be compatible with FSX - I just don't think they've been tested yet? Many FS2004 aircraft can be flown in FSX. Sorry Tom, can only be due to a misunderstanding. We only posted, currently FSX Acceleration is not included on our to-do list. Of course everybody familiar with the accelation process from FS2004 to FSX can do that by his own using your User's Guide included in the 240pnl panel folder of Calclassics Convair CV-240. Cheers Hans
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Post by bytes on Sept 5, 2010 8:55:17 GMT -5
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Russ, are you speaking of BMEP gauges? I'm not aware of any piston-powered Convairliners that had torque meters installed.[/quote]
Hi Capflyer,
You are right except the C-131A (CV-240 mod to Air Force specs) did have them. The basic information provided by these is the same as for the BMEP gauges.
See the engine instrument panel detail for the C-131A in the attachment taken from my -1 manual. They are number 39 on the list.
I hope even BMEP gauges can be placed on the "FSX Wish List" for the Convair panel. There does appear to be room on the VC panel.
Russ
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Post by capflyer on Sept 5, 2010 9:04:12 GMT -5
Ahh, you're right. I just went back and looked at my pictures of N99380's cockpit and there are torque gauges. My memory said they were BMEP and looked more like the civilian layout that was much smaller with 2 BMEP gauges at top, a 2-needle MP gauge below the #1 BMEP and a 2-needle RPM gauge below the #2 BMEP. Here's a picture -
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Post by capflyer on Sept 5, 2010 9:05:28 GMT -5
BTW, here's a pic of 99380's panel -
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bytes
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Post by bytes on Sept 5, 2010 11:53:18 GMT -5
BTW, here's a pic of 99380's panel - Really nice to have actual color photos. Thanks for sharing them. Russ
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Post by dc6tryer on Sept 5, 2010 12:08:03 GMT -5
Hi, I had a look for 'torque meter gauge' on a few sites without any luck, but Hovercontrol has loads of helicopters(!) which all seem to have torque meter type gauges. Are they doing roughly the same job as a T/m would in a CV240 ? Andy.
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bytes
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Post by bytes on Sept 5, 2010 14:33:32 GMT -5
Hi, I had a look for 'torque meter gauge' on a few sites without any luck, but Hovercontrol has loads of helicopters(!) which all seem to have torque meter type gauges. Are they doing roughly the same job as a T/m would in a CV240 ? Andy. Hi Andy, Great detective work in finding these gauges. And yes, they are doing the same thing, but all are not created equal. As long as the T/m gauges in the helo belong to the same basic type engine (P&W R2800-XXX) is is safe to say they could be usable provided the gauges are properly designed to reproduce the sim effect accurately. This is because the gauge must be designed to provide correct reporting of psi limits for METO-low blower, which will have a max operation time in minutes above this limit for Max power/Military power. Also there will be max psi indications for dry and wet operations. The R2800-xxx torquemeters indicate the power being delivered to the propeller drive shaft by measuring engine torque piston oil pressure and transmitting the pressure values to the indicators. The indication refers to engine oil pressure built up on special torquemeter pressure pistons in the forward accessory section of the engine. The torquemeter transmitter is connected to the pressure pad (the pressure pistons) by a capillary pressure link. The T/m indicates only the power delivered to the propeller, not the total power developed by the engine. That is why with the power settings of each engine being the same, one engine having a greater accessory load will read lower than the other, always. A sim T/m gauge would not be usable if the gauge is for a prop-jet turbine engine, which many helos have. For a prop-jet turbine engine's T/m, it indicates the power output of the engine power section at a certain pre-determined RPM. Engine torque is measured by torsional deflection of the torquemeter inner (drive) shaft. The electromagnetic signals are transmitted to a torquemeter indicator that is calibrated in horsepower. The gauges will have indicated horsepower limits. While torquemeters would be nice, the FS9 version VC has a BMEP gauge, but the FSX VC does not. Anyone know why this is? Russ
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Post by Tom/CalClassic on Sept 5, 2010 17:57:43 GMT -5
The latest versions of the CV-240 and CV-340 panels have BMEP gauges in the 2D panel and the VC.
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bytes
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Post by bytes on Sept 5, 2010 18:16:12 GMT -5
The latest versions of the CV-240 and CV-340 panels have BMEP gauges in the 2D panel and the VC. Hi Tom, It has been a while since I updated the CV-240 panel. Thank you for the great news, and making this happen. Everything gets better and more exiting every day Russ
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Post by ussmidway on Sept 5, 2010 21:33:49 GMT -5
Im looking forward to this. It's funny that during my Navy days, back in the 80s, I worked with the C-131 all the time while stationed in Capodichino, Naples Italy. 20+ years later and I cant for the life of me find the couple of pics I took of one as it left the ramp. Not the big aviation fan then, if I had only known it was such a storied bird.
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Post by capflyer on Sept 5, 2010 22:29:09 GMT -5
If anyone wants a great history on the Convairliner military models, I would suggest Steve Ginter's Naval Fighters Number 14. It has a great history of all of the variants and was used by myself to confirm and trace the history of the former Renown Aviation / Air Tahoma aircraft that were ex-military, including the CC-109 that was in the fleet. It was interesting to read all the variants that existed for what was such an obscure airplane in history on the military side that got very little press during its service life.
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